Feeling burnt out from running your business at a pace that would make a coffee-fueled squirrel look lazy? I get it—the pressure to “just work harder” can leave even the most motivated entrepreneur hiding under the covers, to-do list in hand.

In this episode, I’m chatting with Rachel Richards (https://www.rachelrichardsfineart.com/), a photographer and filmmaker who learned the hard way that nonstop hustle isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. We're getting honest about what happens when those “just keep grinding” platitudes totally miss the mark—and how tuning into your body’s signals (yep, even those you thought were just a gut feeling) can help you build a business that feels sustainable and sane.

I dig into how Rachel’s routine shifted after a pretty dramatic burnout moment—think panic attacks, endless job hunting, and a big reality check. She breaks down interoception (basically, listening to your body like it’s a wise consultant), her ritual for staying present, why she ditched time-blocking entirely, and how slowness actually improved her work and her life. If you’re tired of pretending every day is a productivity sprint, this conversation might just feel like home.

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Key Takeaways:

• Honor your own pace by listening to simple cues from your body—sometimes that’s choosing the couch over your desk.

• Communicate your values (like slowness and connection) directly in your offers and client messaging, so your calendar doesn’t run your life.

• Reframe downtime as necessary fuel, not self-sabotage, and recognize when to ask yourself: “Is this rest, or am I avoiding something?”

This podcast is for business owners who are tired of hustle culture and want relatable, honest conversations about running a sustainable business that actually works for their life.