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  • What in the H-1B is going on?
    2025/10/28
    When politics and policy collide with people’s livelihoods, HR leaders are often the ones left cleaning up the mess. In this episode, Stacey sits down with fractional HR leaders Anessa Fike and Morgan Williams to unpack the chaos surrounding recent presidential proclamations on H-1B visas, the newly proposed “gold card” visa, and what happens when immigration policy turns into a political weapon. They share firsthand stories from the front lines of HR during both the 2016 and 2025 crises—when rushed visa restrictions sent companies into panic mode, disrupted families overnight, and exposed how little most Americans understand about how H-1Bs actually work. From wage suppression myths to talent pipeline realities, this conversation offers the clarity and context that global companies, startup founders, and HR practitioners need right now. Key Takeaways: What the $100K H-1B fee really means for employers. Why this proclamation mirrors the 2016 immigration chaos. The human toll on workers, families, and HR teams. Why H-1B holders aren’t “stealing jobs.” How global talent drives U.S. innovation. The ripple effect on startups, STEM, and tech. What HR leaders must do when layoffs involve visas. The uncomfortable truth about “gold card” visas. How power and privilege shape who gets to stay. Why HR’s role in political turbulence matters more than ever. Timestamps: 00:00 — Welcome + Why this conversation matters 02:40 — Breaking down the new H-1B rules 05:30 — Déjà vu: echoes of 2016 08:00 — Inside HR’s panic during sudden policy shifts 13:30 — The truth about wage suppression myths 18:20 — What H-1Bs reveal about global talent markets 23:40 — Layoffs, life disruption, and HR ethics 28:50 — How the $100K fee blocks smaller orgs 37:00 — Tech, innovation, and talent pipelines at risk 41:00 — “Gold card” visas and the politics of access
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    53 分
  • When Black Women Get Pushed Out of Work
    2025/10/21
    Black women are being pushed out of the U.S. workforce at alarming rates—and it’s not by choice. In this powerful episode of Toot or Boot, host Stacey Nordwall sits down with workplace equity expert T. Tara Turk-Haynes and communications leader and career strategist Cassandra Babilya to unpack how federal job cuts, dismantled DEI programs, and systemic neglect have created an economic crisis that reveals much more than the headlines. Together, they explore what this moment says about the state of work, leadership, and allyship—and what HR and business leaders can actually do to respond. Takeaways Black women’s unemployment rate has surged past 7%, the highest of any demographic group. Federal job cuts are erasing a long-standing path to middle-class stability for Black workers. The dismantling of DEI programs has disproportionately removed Black women from leadership roles. “Economic canary in the coal mine”: what happens to Black women first eventually affects everyone. Many former DEI and HR professionals are now turning to entrepreneurship out of necessity, not choice. Fear of “job hugging” and retaliation may be stifling allyship inside organizations. Mutual aid and microgrants are emerging as critical lifelines for displaced workers. Business leaders must proactively assess who’s being most affected by layoffs and hiring freezes. Individual action—referrals, donations, advocacy—still matters when sustained collectively. True allyship means staying present, vocal, and engaged when it’s no longer convenient. Chapters 00:00 – Opening: Black women and federal job cuts set the stage. 05:47 – Cassandra’s “gong” moment: realizing this isn’t a blip. 07:15 – Tara on being “pushed” into entrepreneurship. 10:35 – Why the silence from supposed allies feels like betrayal. 13:55 – The rise of Black women entrepreneurs as a survival strategy. 17:05 – Understanding why Black women are the canary in the coal mine. 21:09 – How layoffs in HR and DEI deepen inequality across the workforce. 29:10 – The erosion of collective bravery and the rise of isolation. 35:50 – Mutual aid and community action in the face of federal cuts. 43:22 – The call to HR: prove you’re human resources, not corporate defense. Resources: https://fortune.com/2025/08/15/black-female-leadership-future-ceos-erased-dei/ https://www.npr.org/2025/04/27/nx-s1-5349442/black-federal-employees-trump-cuts https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2025/05/agencies-majority-women-and-minority-workforces-are-some-hardest-hit-trump-staff-cuts-new-report-finds/405179/ https://19thnews.org/2025/07/black-women-unemployment-jobs-warning-sign/ https://www.msnbc.com/know-your-value/business-culture/300000-black-women-left-labor-force-3-months-s-not-coincidence-rcna219355 https://time.com/7315624/rising-unemployment-black-women-economy/ https://www.epi.org/blog/whats-behind-rising-unemployment-for-black-workers/ https://www.sheenmagazine.com/relief-is-resistance-the-state-of-women-relief-fund/
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    54 分
  • Moderna merges HR and IT, the price of office politics, and is sustainable scaling achievable?
    2025/06/05

    In this episode, we explore three critical workplace strategy topics: how effective leaders can minimize office politics through transparency, accountability, and encouraging diverse viewpoints—strategies that seem obvious yet many workplaces still struggle to implement; Moderna's innovative approach to merging their tech and HR departments under a single "chief people and digital technology officer" role, complete with over 3,000 custom GPTs, representing a thoughtful years-long integration rather than a knee-jerk AI adoption; and the challenges of scaling a business sustainably, where the advice to build systems for 10x capacity sounds great in theory but often conflicts with the reality that HR infrastructure typically lags behind growth, creating a delicate balance between building too little too late versus over-engineering for your current stage.


    Connect

    Katya Laviolette on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katya-laviolette-6907b726/

    Stacey Nordwall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/


    Articles

    • How Effective Leaders Minimize Office Politics
    • Why Moderna Merged Its Tech and HR Departments
    • Why Scaling a Business is the Hardest—and Most Important—Stage of Growth
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    29 分
  • The cost of DEI rollbacks, the new employer-employee relationship , and the human cost of content moderation
    2025/05/27

    This episode dives into why some CEOs are paying the price for walking back DEI, how the employer-employee relationship has fundamentally shifted, and the horrifying conditions faced by Meta’s outsourced content moderators. From strategic miscalculations to moral failures, we examine what these stories tell us about leadership, labor, and the values that shape today’s workplaces.

    Connect:

    With Anessa:

    • On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anessafike/
    • On her website: https://www.fikeandco.com/
    • Her book: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-revolution-of-work-fuck-the-patriarchy-and-the-workplace-it-built-anessa-fike/21206822?ean=9781961347540&next=t

    With Stacey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/

    Articles:

    • How some corporations miscalculated the impact of abandoning DEI
    • Has the Labor Market changed or have employees?
    • Meta faces Ghana lawsuits over impact of extreme content on moderators
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    33 分
  • A hard job market for new college grads, the cost of declining employee wellbeing, a bold child care policy
    2025/05/20

    In this episode, we explore Cake’s Body’s bold $36K childcare stipend, why the job market is suddenly so brutal for college grads, and what the WEF’s new report reveals about the steep decline in employee well-being. We break down what these headlines signal about where workplaces are headed—and what HR needs to be thinking about next.

    Connect:

    With Anessa:

    • On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anessafike/
    • On her website: https://www.fikeandco.com/
    • Her book: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-revolution-of-work-fuck-the-patriarchy-and-the-workplace-it-built-anessa-fike/21206822?ean=9781961347540&next=t


    With Stacey on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/

    Articles:

    • Cakes Body’s $36K Child Care Credit Leads the Way in Affordable Child Care Planning for Employees
    • Something Alarming Is Happening to the Job Market
    • World Economic Forum Warns Employee Well-Being Is Declining—and Costing Businesses Trillions
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    27 分
  • The workplace triple threat: Disengagement, RTOs, and Fake AI Applicants
    2025/05/13

    This week, we're diving into three concerning workplace trends: First, employee engagement is declining sharply, with managers under 35 and female managers leading this downward slide—potentially because they're caught in middle management roles with high responsibility but little decision-making power. Meanwhile, BNY Mellon is increasing its office mandate from three to four days weekly by September 2025, again bringing up the question of if RTOs are actually solving the challenges businesses are having. Finally, tech CEOs are raising alarms about candidates using AI to fake their way through remote job interviews—with Gartner projecting that by 2028, one in four global job applicants will be using AI-generated profiles, posing serious security risks beyond simple resume fraud.


    Connect:

    With Lee Rubin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rubinl/

    With Stacey Nordwall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/


    Articles:

    • Employee Engagement is Dropping and Managers are leading the slide
    • BNY asks employees to return to office four days a week by September
    • Fake job seekers are flooding U.S. companies that are hiring for remote positions, tech CEOs say


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    33 分
  • The path from CPO to COO, employee choice in RTOs, and job ads for narcissists?
    2025/05/06

    This week, we discuss why HR professionals are naturally positioned for C-suite operations roles, examining the journey of Hinge's Angel Franklin from CPO to COO and why this transition shouldn't be considered unusual. We also dive into MongoDB's approach to hybrid work models, and fascinating research on how job ad language may inadvertently attract candidates with narcissistic tendencies and what this means for recruitment strategies.


    Connect:

    with Steven Huang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thestevenhuang/

    or sign up for his newsletter: https://setthesetting.substack.com/


    with Stacey Nordwall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/

    Articles:

    • Why it’s not far-fetched for HR pros to dream of being COO
    • Giving employees a choice when to be in the office
    • Why is your boss a narcissist? Blame the job ad that got them hired
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    21 分
  • Target's DEI rollbacks hit their bottom line, LGBTQ discrimination on the rise, and quiet cracking
    2025/04/29

    This week, we dive into the real-world impacts of DEI rollbacks, workplace discrimination, and employee disengagement. We examine how Target faced boycotts and significant business impacts after eliminating DEI initiatives recently met with Rev. Al Sharpton to address the impacts of boycotts. We'll also explore troubling new research showing increased workplace discrimination against LGBTQ+ employees amid a record year of anti-LGBTQ+ legislation. Finally, we discuss the emerging concept of "quiet cracking" and what it reveals about the current state of workplace wellbeing and employee engagement.

    Connect:

    with Steven Huang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thestevenhuang/

    or sign up for his newsletter: https://setthesetting.substack.com/


    with Stacey Nordwall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/

    Articles:

    • Rev Al Sharpton meets with Target CEO over halting of DEI initiative
    • LGBTQ+ workers report more discrimination, less happiness at work
    • What is ‘quiet cracking’? Worker disengagement has a new name
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    22 分