This episode goes back to basics. We hear about animal rights, welfare, compassion and kindness. It all sounds like good things and stuff we should have. So I want to share with you why when I talk about animal ethics, I centre my words around rights instead of welfare or compassion and kindness

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Emi Leese

https://emilialeese.substack.com

http://thinklikeavegan.com

http://emilialeese.com

@emi.leese or @thinklikeavegan, Instagram, Facebook, X and Threads

Credits

Host: Emilia A. Leese

Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com

Music

Opening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

Interlude: "On the Forbidden Balcony" by Matthew Gerstenberger; Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

This podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com

When you hear the term zoonotic disease, what does it mean to you? What do you think of and who is responsible for them?

Maybe you think about Covid 19. How about HIV-AIDS? Is your impression that zoonotic illnesses are something relatively new? Or uncommon?

In this episode, I'll explore just how far back in time zoonotic illnesses go and think about how our entanglement with other animals affects us -- and them -- on a cellular level

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Emi Leese

https://emilialeese.substack.com

http://thinklikeavegan.com

http://emilialeese.com

@emi.leese or @thinklikeavegan, Instagram, Facebook, X and Threads

Credits

Host: Emilia A. Leese

Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com

Music

Opening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

Interlude: "Pinglie" by Matthew Gerstenberger; Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

This podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com

Ida B. Wells and the relevance of her work to the animal justice movement

Zane McNeill and Nathan Poirier discuss Ida B. Wells' historical and contemporary legacy and relevance to critical animal studies

For more than 40 years from the late 1800s, Ida B. Wells fought for justice for Black Americans. Wells was a journalist, newspaper owner, feminist, suffragist and organiser. In particular, she called herself a lynching agitator and she’s probably still best known for this work

McNeill and Poirier discuss the historical and foundational influence the Black feminist body of work plays for critical animal studies. This influence is all too often not made clear. While barely mentioning nonhuman animals,” the essay on Ida B. Wells, “fundamentally belongs within critical animal studies via consistent anti- oppression” by studying historical gender and racial activism through the efforts of an early and important yet understudied Black feminist”.

Their book is entitled Expanding the Critical Animal Studies Imagination: Essays in Solidarity and Total Liberation (2023, Peter Lang https://www.peterlang.com/document/1298884)

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Zane McNeill @zane_crittheory on X

Nathan Poirier https://www.facebook.com/nathan.poirier.7792

Emi Leese

https://emilialeese.substack.com

http://thinklikeavegan.com

http://emilialeese.com

@emi.leese or @thinklikeavegan, Instagram, Facebook, X and Threads

Credits

Host: Emilia A. Leese

Guests: Zane McNeill and Nathan Poirier

Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com

Music

Opening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

Interlude: "Memories/Generations" by Matthew Gerstenberger; Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

This podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com

What should we say to vegans?

Benny Malone returns to the podcast to discuss with me what people should say to vegans instead of the usual excuses. Benny joined me in Season One in the episode entitled "Discussing Veganism with Others" where Benny talks about his top five fallacies vegans encounter when talking with others and I talk about my top three tips when engaging with others about veganism.

Benny is the author of How to Argue with Vegans, an analysis of anti-vegan arguments. He’s an autodidact in science, nature and philosophy. And if there’s a book about veganism out there, he’s read it cover to cover.

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Benny Malone

@BennyMalone on Facebook @benny_malone_ on on Instagram and @BennyMaloneUK on X

Emi Leese

https://emilialeese.substack.com

http://thinklikeavegan.com

http://emilialeese.com

@emi.leese or @thinklikeavegan, Instagram, Facebook, X, Threads

Credits

Host: Emilia A. Leese

Guest: Benny Malone

Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com

Music

Opening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

Interlude: "Gendrone" by Matthew Gerstenberger; Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

This podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com

Pre-order the paperback edition of our book, Think Like a Vegan! This highly anticipated release will be available January 2025 in the UK and worldwide and April 2025 in North America. It will contain a new afterword so you can dive into updates and new material you won't find in the hardcover. We've added insightful reflections and fresh content to keep you inspired and informed. Pre-order on ⁠Amazon⁠, ⁠Target⁠ or wherever you buy books and ask your library to carry it

Alice Crary and Lori Gruen talk about what is effective altruism, why it's harmful and what are alternatives which already exist. Should we measure the effectiveness of an act meant to benefit another? How do we decide its effectiveness and for whom it’s effective - for the beneficiary? For the actor? And why should we be thinking about effectiveness when we’re talking about doing something that’s meant to do good or change minds?

Alice and Lori have edited, and contributed to, a collection of essays on the topic, along with Carol J. Adam, entitled The Good it Promises, the Harm it Does

Alice Crary is a Distinguished Professor of Philosophy at The New School for Social Research, a Visiting Fellow at Regent’s Park College in the University of Oxford and at the Zolberg Institute on Migration and Mobility

Lori Gruen is the William Griffin Professor of Philosophy and Professor of Feminist, Gender, and Sexuality Studies and Science in Society at Wesleyan University where she also coordinates Wesleyan Animal Studies.

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Alice Crary: https://alicecrary.com

Lori Gruen: https://www.lorigruen.com Emi Leese

https://emilialeese.substack.com http://thinklikeavegan.com http://emilialeese.com @emi.leese or @thinklikeavegan, Instagram, Facebook, X, Threads

Credits

Host: Emilia A. Leese

Guests: Dr Alice Crary and Dr Lori Gruen

Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com

Music

Opening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

Interlude: "Fuurin Sanpo" by Matthew Gerstenberger; Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

This podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com

Pre-order the paperback edition of our book, Think Like a Vegan! This highly anticipated release will be available from January 2025 in the UK/worldwide and April 2025 in North America. It will contain a new afterword so you can dive into updates and new material you won't find in the hardcover. We've added insightful reflections and fresh content to keep you inspired and informed. Pre-order on ⁠Amazon⁠, ⁠Target⁠ or wherever you buy books and ask your library to carry it

Whenever people talk about the environment or the plight of animals, they all seem to say something like “oh I agree industrial animal farming is terrible!” And it is. But that's not the full story.

I discuss why we should encourage the focus to be on the inherent injustice of animal use and I even use some archeology to make this point

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Emi Leese

https://emilialeese.substack.com http://thinklikeavegan.com http://emilialeese.com @emi.leese or @thinklikeavegan, Instagram, Facebook, X, Threads

Credits

Host: Emilia A. Leese Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com

Music

Opening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

Interlude: "Waiting for Summer" by Matthew Gerstenberger; Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

This podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com

Pre-order the paperback edition of our book, Think Like a Vegan! This highly anticipated release will be available from January 2025 in the UK/worldwide and April 2025 in North America. It will contain a new afterword so you can dive into updates and new material you won't find in the hardcover. We've added insightful reflections and fresh content to keep you inspired and informed. Pre-order on ⁠Amazon⁠, ⁠Target⁠ or wherever you buy books and ask your library to carry it

Dr Stacy Banwell discusses her book, The War Against Nonhuman Animals: A Non-Speciesist Understanding of Gendered Reproductive Violence. I began exploring the entanglement of war and animals in season two of my podcast when Josh Milburn and Sara van Goozen were my guests. Stacy takes the analysis of war and animals along the logical continuum, putting our actions within the context of International Humanitarian Law, the Geneva Convention and the additional protocols. She does so in an astonishing way - she’s at once clinical in her analysis, devastating in her straightforward telling of facts and incredibly sensitive to the real and lived experiences of people and animals.

Stacy is an associate professor of Criminology at the University of Greenwich in the UK. She has made two remarkable animations on why the war against animals is a crisis for humans too and one on gendered wars and gender-based violence. She has a long list of publications in addition to the book discussed in this episode, and many focussed on gender violence whether during war or armed conflict or otherwise, including The Emerald International Handbook of Feminist Perspectives on Women’s Acts of Violence, Sex and Crime, and the monograph Gender and the Violence(s) of War and Armed Conflict: More dangerous to be a woman?

TW: discussion of gendered and reproductive violence

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Stacy Banwell

https://www.vegansociety.com/get-involved/research/who-we-are/stacy-banwell

https://www.gre.ac.uk/people/rep/las/stacy-banwell

Animations:

Why is the war against nonhuman animals a crisis for humans too? https://youtu.be/pQCnJqeP0sQ?feature=shared Gendered wars and gender-based violence: Who ‘is dangerous’, who is ‘in danger’? https://youtu.be/6Hq14VEwgWo?feature=shared

Emi Leese

https://emilialeese.substack.com http://thinklikeavegan.com http://emilialeese.com @emi.leese or @thinklikeavegan, Instagram, Facebook, X, Threads

Credits

Host: Emilia A. Leese

Guest: Stacy Banwell

Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com

Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com

MusicOpening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

Interlude: "Jin Regret" by Matthew Gerstenberger; Seismicity on Soundcloud https://on.soundcloud.com/3Pf8g

Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

This podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com

Pre-order the paperback edition of our book, Think Like a Vegan! This highly anticipated release will be available from January 2025 in the UK/worldwide and April 2025 in North America. It will contain a new afterword so you can dive into updates and new material you won't find in the hardcover. We've added insightful reflections and fresh content to keep you inspired and informed. Pre-order on Amazon, Target or wherever you buy books and ask your library to carry it

Max Haiven discusses whether palm oil is a particularly more destructive product than any other. Max's book, Palm Oil: Grease of Empire, gets into a bit of the history, political, economic and natural impact of the palm oil industry, which had its start during European colonisation of West Africa in the 19th century. Max then zooms out to look at the wider impact and how we might want to consider what we do about palm oil production.

Max is an author, a professor at Lakehead University in Canada and the Canada Research Chair in Radical Imagination. He also co-hosts a call-in podcast called What Do We Want, and directs the ReImagining Value Action Lab, a workshop for the radical imagination, social justice and decolonization. He's also the first and, so far, only non-vegan guest on this podcast

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Max Haiven⁠

https://maxhaiven.com/⁠ https://reimaginevalue.ca/ @maxhaiven on X https://maxhaiven.substack.com/ ⁠https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745345826/palm-oil/⁠

Emi Leese

⁠https://emilialeese.substack.com⁠ ⁠http://thinklikeavegan.com⁠

⁠http://emilialeese.com ⁠

@emi.leese or @thinklikeavegan, Instagram, Facebook, X, Threads

Credits

Host: Emilia A. Leese Guest: Max Haiven

Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; ⁠https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com⁠

Graphics: Catherine Dorrell ⁠https://www.messyvegancook.com⁠ Music

Opening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business Interlude: "Hit" by Flowers Must Die Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business

This podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network ⁠https://iroarpod.com⁠