Can you believe it! Season 9 comes to a close!

Jamie and Tom look back on the conversations from Season 9, catch up on what’s been happening with their sobriety, and get into the big news that Brad Pitt is drinking again after 7 years sober! Let us know your thoughts @theythinkitsallsober

Thank you all for tuning it! We will be back soon for Season 10

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This week we’re joined by Ben Dean, founder of Raven Records and author of Uncover Satan, Recover Thyself: A Rational Satanic Recovery.

After years of struggling with alcohol, Ben walked into Alcoholics Anonymous at 24 and began a recovery journey that would eventually lead him to build his own approach around Rational Satanism, personal responsibility and the idea that recovery doesn’t have to look the same for everyone. His book explores how Satanic philosophy can sit alongside the principles of the 12 Steps, while also bringing in science, exercise, nutrition, ritual and a much broader understanding of addiction. (Satanic Recovery)

We get into what “Satanic recovery” actually means, the misconceptions around Satanism, where Ben agrees and disagrees with traditional recovery programmes, and why finding a recovery system that genuinely speaks to you can matter more than following somebody else’s rulebook.

We also talk music, running a record label, identity after addiction and the strange ways our lives can completely change once we stop drinking.

A properly fascinating conversation about belief, rebellion, responsibility and finding your own route out.

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This week, we’re talking about fitness, sobriety and the strange line between doing something because it makes you feel good and feeling like you have to do it just to feel okay.

Jamie talks about the shame cycle that used to come with drinking: waking up hungover, feeling awful about himself, promising to do better and then eventually doing it all over again. Now, years into sobriety, he’s noticed something familiar creeping into his relationship with the gym.

Training six or seven days a week feels incredible. It gives him routine, endorphins, confidence and a positive outlet that works brilliantly alongside sobriety. But what happens when missing a workout brings guilt? When you start obsessing over calories, weight, steps and how your body looks? Have you actually broken the cycle, or have you just found a healthier-looking place to put it?

We talk about why so many of us throw ourselves into fitness after getting sober, when that can be an incredibly positive thing, and when discipline can quietly start turning into obsession.

Because the aim isn’t to stop caring about fitness. It’s learning how to let it add to your life without letting it run your life.

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