Today we are interrupting our podcast schedule to bring you a conversation Katy had last week with Executive Director of Baptist Women in Ministry, Meredith Stone. Katy and Meredith discuss the recent SBC vote to further restrict the voices of women as well as do a deep dive on the tainted history of the Southern Baptist Church. Meredith also explains why this issue continues to come up over and over and why simply leaving the denomination is sometimes more complicated than we think.

In our bonus episode on Substack, Katy asks Meredith what she makes of the “secret” Baptist churches that exclude the word Baptist from their name in an effort to be more appealing and how this practice is often harmful for women.

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Today we are sharing a conversation with Pastor Benjamin Cremer about his work in combating Christian Nationalism online and why it matters. Ben and Katy discuss his unlikely rise to internet fame and how at times it has come with a cost, as well as why most pastors are seemingly afraid to talk about suffering and injustices from the pulpit. Ben also walks us through the many ways Christian Nationalism has harmed women in particular.

Make sure you check out our Second Service bonus episode with Ben where we discuss whether or not he thinks the American church is actually capable of correcting itself or if it’s too far gone.

Follow Ben on Instagram at @brcremer, follow his Substack and visit his website to learn more about his work.

Listen to Ben’s podcast Into the Gray where he posts weekly sermons here.

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