Learn more about Mike Smith and The Gutter Gospel:

https://theguttergospel.com/home

Donate: https://theguttergospel.com/donate

Connect: Mike@theguttergospel.com

Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:

The Life Recovery Bible - https://a.co/d/2Pwrngm

The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren - https://a.co/d/fb44JC6

Best piece of Recovery advice: Be vulnerable

Song that symbolizes Recovery to Mike:

Love Walks In by Van Halen - https://youtu.be/jP4OUoze664?si=-MxEC6BfGFpeNrQo

Summary

In this conversation, Mike Smith shares his journey ofself-discovery, emphasizing the importance of understanding one's true desiresin life. He recounts a pivotal moment when he realized that what he trulywanted was acceptance, rather than material wealth or superficial achievements.

Takeaways

The importance of self-reflection in understanding desires.

Acceptance is a fundamental human need.

Material wealth does not equate to true happiness.

Listening to one's inner voice can lead to clarity.

Life's true desires often differ from societal expectations.

Moments of clarity can come unexpectedly.

Self-discovery is a continuous journey.

Traffic can serve as a metaphor for life's distractions.

Finding acceptance can be liberating.

True fulfillment comes from within.

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

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Andrew Adams | High Impact Trainer Speaker and Coach: https://www.instagram.com/andr3wadams/

Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations:

The Narcotics Anonymous Step Working Guide - https://cwpascna.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/na_swg_12.pdf

Letting Go: The Pathway of Surrender - David Hawkins

Best piece of Recovery advice: Keep going and have fun

Song that symbolizes Recovery to Andrew: Bigger Than by JustinJesso, Seeb - https://youtu.be/BHd1YZmWMsU?si=VcvlI66ztNYh02mt

Takeaways

• Recovery is a journey of learning to love yourself.
• Sharing your story helps others feel less alone.
• Vulnerability allows for deeper connections in recovery.
• Self-forgiveness is essential for healing.
• Emotional intelligence plays a key role in recovery.
• Generational trauma can impact addiction.
• Choosing the hard path leads to personal growth.
• Physical activity is vital for mental health in recovery.
• Spirituality can be a personal journey outside of traditional religion.
• Creating a supportive community is crucial for recovery.

Summary

In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Andrew Adams shareshis transformative journey through recovery, emphasizing the importance ofself-love, community, and emotional intelligence. He discusses the impact ofchildhood trauma on addiction, the significance of vulnerability in recovery,and the role of spirituality in healing. Andrew highlights the challenges ofself-forgiveness and the power of sharing one's story to inspire others. Healso explores various recovery pathways and the importance of physical activityand daily practices in sustaining recovery. The conversation culminates in adiscussion about the influence of music and literature in Andrew's recoveryjourney.

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

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Andrew Kramer | Person in long term recovery

Recovery Literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation: Man's searchfor meaning - https://a.co/d/63SAIGB

Best piece of Recovery Advice: Extend yourself grace andforgiveness

More Than Meets The Eye by Testament - https://youtu.be/09rHDabBQfA?si=hMImOjjzoaU-72A5

Summary

In this conversation, Andrew Kramer shares his profoundjourney towards sobriety, highlighting a pivotal moment of desperation where hereached out to a higher power for help. He reflects on the dangerous mindset ofbeing an alcoholic who is aware yet indifferent to their condition, and how aheartfelt prayer led him to seek rehabilitation and ultimately change his life.

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA

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Contact Michelle: michelleshaivitz@gmail.com

Book recommendations: The Big Book and Broken Is A Gift byDr. Michelle Shaivitz

here's that link https://a.co/d/exo0n4z

Best Advice: "Life is hard sometimes. You are notentitled to anything. Acceptance is the key to all our happiness. Be a goodperson."

Song that symbolizes recovery:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzGAYNKDyIU&list=RDVzGAYNKDyIU&start_radio=1

Resources: https://womenforsobriety.org/

Summary

In this conversation, Michelle Shaivitz shares her personaljourney with alcoholism, detailing the progression of her addiction and thesecretive behaviors that accompanied it. She reflects on how her drinkinghabits evolved from casual to compulsive, highlighting the emotional strugglestied to her addiction and the impact on her relationships.

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

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Learn more about Lisa Katona Smith:

https://linktr.ee/Parallel_Recovery

Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Braving theWilderness by Brenee Brown - https://a.co/d/0P4ZRKb

Best piece of Recovery advice: Make sure your heart and headstay connected.

Song that symbolizes Recovery to Lisa: Landslide byFleetwood Mac - https://youtu.be/radHy4HhhNg

Takeaways

Recovery is a parallel journey for families and loved ones.

Sustainability in recovery is crucial for both individualsand families.

Families often lack support and tools to navigate theirloved one's struggles.

Detaching with love should not mean abandoning therelationship.

Witnessing someone else's experience with compassion isessential.

Families need to engage in their own recovery process.

The DSM-5 has changed how we view substance use disorders.

Opportunities for change can arise before hitting rockbottom.

Self-compassion is vital in the recovery journey.

Connection to nature and community enhances personalrecovery.

Summary

In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Lisa Katona Smithdiscusses her book 'Parallel Recovery' and the importance of family involvementin the recovery process. She shares her personal journey, the challengesfamilies face, and the need for sustainable practices in recovery. Lisaemphasizes the significance of compassion, connection, and the role of familiesin supporting their loved ones struggling with substance use and mental healthdisorders. The conversation highlights the need for a shift in how familiesapproach recovery, focusing on empowerment and understanding rather thandetachment and blame.

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

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Contact Nicole : https://reelcovery.org/contact-us

Book recommendation: The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book

Best Advice: "Your network is your net worth."

Song that symbolizes recovery to Nicole: My Whole World | FOUNT

Resources: ReelCovery

Takeaways

Nicole celebrated five years of sobriety on 10-11-2020.

She serves the recovery community through her nonprofit,Real Covery.

Recovery means everything to Nicole; it's life or death.

Nicole's journey includes trauma, family dynamics, andsubstance use.

She found faith during a mission trip to Nicaragua.

Nicole's professional fishing career is intertwined with herrecovery journey.

Relapse is part of the journey; Nicole experienced it in2019.

AA played a crucial role in her recovery and spiritualgrowth.

Real Covery aims to connect fishing with recovery and faith.

Nicole emphasizes the importance of community andaccountability in recovery. Daily routines are essential for sustainablerecovery.

The AA Big Book and the Life Recovery Bible aretransformative texts.

Networking plays a crucial role in recovery and personalgrowth.

Forgiveness is a vital part of healing, both for oneself andothers.

Restoring relationships can be a significant success inrecovery.

Letting go of control is a common challenge in recovery.

Self-reflection helps in understanding personal issues andgrowth.

Finding peace and serenity is achievable through recoverywork.

It's important to reach out and not feel alone in thejourney.

Recovery is a collective effort, and support is available.

Summary

In this episode, Nicole Jacobs shares her powerful journeyfrom addiction to recovery, emphasizing the importance of faith, community, andpersonal growth. She discusses her struggles with alcohol and drug use, theimpact of trauma, and how her relationship with God transformed her life.Nicole highlights her work with the nonprofit Real Covery, which connectsfishing with recovery, and the significance of accountability through AA. Herstory is one of resilience, hope, and the belief that recovery is possible foreveryone. In this conversation, Nicole Jacobs shares her journey of recovery,emphasizing the importance of establishing a consistent routine, the impact ofliterature on her recovery, and the value of networking. She discusses thechallenges of letting go of control and the successes of restoringrelationships with her family. Nicole also highlights the significance offorgiveness and self-reflection in her healing process, ultimately delivering apowerful message to those struggling with addiction.

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

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Contact Steven: http://www.stevenmbellmusic.com/

Book recommendation: Read “Uncomfortable Truth:Faith, Failure, Redemption” - https://a.co/d/6DIK4RB

Best Advice: Reach Out

Song that symbolizes recovery: I'm letting go by Steven M.Bell

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Summary

In this episode, Stephen Bell shares his powerful journey ofrecovery from alcohol addiction, detailing the struggles he faced, the role offaith in his transformation, and the importance of community support. Hediscusses his memoir, 'Uncomfortable Truth,' and how writing has been atherapeutic process for him. Stephen emphasizes the significance of honesty,daily routines, and the lessons learned throughout his recovery journey,ultimately inspiring others to believe in the possibility of change and healing.

Takeaways

Recovery is a day-to-day process that requires honesty.

Finding purpose in serving others is crucial in recovery.

Faith plays a significant role in overcoming addiction.

Writing can be a therapeutic outlet for healing.

Community support is vital for recovery success.

Facing one's demons is uncomfortable but necessary forgrowth.

Daily routines help maintain a sustainable recovery.

It's important to forgive oneself for past mistakes.

Micro cravings can be a challenge even after years ofsobriety.

There is always hope for those struggling with addiction.

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA

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Reach out to Trevor Shick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trevor-shick-27b2971a6/

Roo Mi:

https://kindhabitlabs.com/

Recovery literature (Quit-Lit) Recommendation)

Ego is the enemy by Ryan Holiday - https://a.co/d/eq0dpaR

Best Piece of Recovery advice: The people that make themeeting make it

Song that symbolizes Recovery: Am I dreaming by Metro Boomin,A$AP Rocky - https://youtu.be/7aUZtDaxS60

Takeaways

Recovery means getting another chance to live.

Emotional sobriety is different from just being dry.

Service commitments keep us engaged in recovery.

Connection with others is essential for recovery.

Honesty with oneself and others is crucial.

Taking ownership of one's recovery journey is empowering.

Community support can transform the recovery experience.

Finding joy in life again is a key aspect of recovery.

Relapses are common but do not define recovery.

The journey of recovery is ongoing and requires dailyeffort. Hearing others' stories can lead to personal transformation.

Vulnerability is essential for growth in recovery.

Accountability helps maintain progress in sober living.

Daily routines play a crucial role in recovery.

Community engagement enhances the recovery experience.

Forgiveness is a vital part of healing.

Relationships are often the greatest success in recovery.

Literature can provide profound insights into recovery.

It's important to hold oneself accountable for actions.

Sober living environments need effective management tools.

Summary

In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Trevor Shick shareshis journey through addiction and recovery, highlighting the impact of alcoholon his life and the importance of emotional sobriety. He discusses the role ofservice and community in recovery, the challenges of relapses, and thesignificance of honesty and open-mindedness in the recovery process. Trevoremphasizes the joy of living a sober life and the connections he has builtwithin the recovery community, illustrating that recovery is an ongoing journeythat requires daily commitment and effort. In this conversation, Trevor Shickshares his transformative journey through recovery, emphasizing the importanceof vulnerability, accountability, and community. He introduces Kind Habit Labsand its flagship product, Rumi, an app designed to enhance accountability insober living environments. The discussion highlights common challenges faced inrecovery, the significance of daily routines, and the impact of literature andadvice on personal growth. Trevor also reflects on forgiveness and therelationships that define success in recovery, concluding with a symbolic songthat resonates with his journey.

Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!

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