In this episode of The Purpose-Focused Advisor, Rob Brown welcomes Hillary Gale, founder of Moneta Copy and host of The Finance Marketing Podcast. Hillary is a standout voice in advisor marketing, helping financial professionals craft purpose-driven content that actually connects. From her roots as a writing teacher to her passion for personal finance, Hillary shares how she helps advisors tap into authentic storytelling, build deeper trust with clients, and create marketing strategies that don’t feel like marketing. This episode is full of inspiration and practical tools for financial advisors ready to show up more powerfully in their messaging.

Key Takeaways:

• The Power of Storytelling in Marketing (05:53) – Story helps people emotionally connect and remember who you are, making it easier for them to trust you before you ever speak.
• You Already Have the Stories That Matter (12:03) – Advisors don’t need dramatic stories—real-life client wins and personal experiences are often the most powerful.
• Why Advisors Must Own Their Audience (16:22) – Social media platforms aren’t yours but your email list is—protect that channel and use it to deepen trust.
• Repetition Isn’t Spam—It’s Strategy (20:58) – People need to hear from you more than once; showing up consistently makes your message stick.
• Repurposing Is a Marketing Superpower (24:16) – Your next great email is probably hiding in a recent client conversation, LinkedIn post, or team debrief—just reshape it.

Hillary Gale: "Story really has the power to help someone else see themselves in what you do. It creates a connection that statistics and facts alone simply can't."

Rob Brown: "Rarely did you win business through one conversation. One touch leads to the next, to the next... and creates something that can last."

About Hillary Gale: Hillary Gale, founder and CEO of Moneta Copy, is a content strategist and copywriter for financial services professionals. She has been featured in MarketWatch, Wealthtender, and Clever Girl Finance, and is the host of The Finance Marketing Podcast, a show that spotlights in-depth conversations on marketing with financial professionals and finance marketing experts. You can catch her on LinkedIn most weekdays sharing marketing insights and ideas specifically for financial services pros.

Connect with Hillary Gale:

Website: http://monetacopy.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hillary-meehan/

Free Guide on Marketing Minus the Overwhelm: https://guide.monetacopy.com/mmto

The Finance Marketing Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-finance-marketing-podcast/id1733748813

Episode References:

• Truest Fan Coaching
• Business Optimization Scorecard

Connect with Rob Brown:

Website: http://truestfan.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/truestfan/

What happens when an industry veteran who’s helped train 10,000+ financial advisors sits down to talk about what’s really missing in today’s advisor development? You get this kind of episode. In this conversation, Gary Sinderbrand, legendary producer and founder of Better Path Training, shares behind-the-scenes truths about what it really takes to succeed and build something that lasts. From early career lessons in a dial-for-dollars world to leading one of the most impactful training programs at a major firm, Gary has seen it all. Now, his mission is clear: bridge the skills gap between senior and junior advisors—before it’s too late.

Key Takeaways:

• Soft Skills Are the Real Superpower (02:00) – Success in this business isn’t just about managing assets; it’s about earning trust and building relationships that last a lifetime.
• Lead with Education, Not a Pitch (14:50) – Gary built credibility fast by giving clients clarity before talking products—because real value starts with helping people understand.
• Redefining Succession (32:15) – A real succession plan doesn’t just hand off a book—it challenges junior advisors to grow it, lead it, and own the next chapter.
• Earn It Every Day (44:00) – If you’re not finding assets or solving problems, you’re not really an advisor. This business is about showing up and proving your value—daily.

Gary Sinderbrand: “Choose your own hours. Work with who you want. Make an unlimited amount of capital—and always leave it better than you found it.”

Rob Brown: “Succession shouldn’t look like caretaking. It should look like building something new—together.”

About Gary Sinderbrand: Gary Sinderbrand brings decades of elite production experience and transformative training expertise to financial advisors. As co-creator of the Payne-Sinderbrand Program, he helped shape the careers of over 12,000 FAs. A former Private Wealth Advisor at UBS and multi-million-dollar producer, Gary now leads BetterPath Training, specializing in multi-generational advisory teams. He equips next-gen advisors with battle-tested client acquisition strategies and helps seasoned professionals optimize succession plans. With a unique blend of real-world experience and practice management innovation, Gary provides the tools advisors need to build, grow, and protect their businesses for lasting success.

Connect with Gary Sinderbrand:

Website: http://betterpathtraining.com/

Email: gary.sinderbrand@gmail.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gsinderbrand/

Episode References:

• Truest Fan Coaching
• Business Optimization Scorecard

Connect with Rob Brown:

Website: http://truestfan.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/truestfan/

In this episode of The Purpose-Focused Advisor, Rob Brown welcomes Lauren Hong, Founder and CEO of Out & About Communications, a branding and marketing agency transforming how financial firms show up in the world. Lauren has spent over a decade helping RIAs ditch stale, cookie-cutter branding and embrace a more authentic, strategic approach. With a background in graphic design and a passion for storytelling, she’s on a mission to help advisors align their identities with their business goals. Whether you’re thinking about a website refresh or wondering how to measure client satisfaction beyond AUM, Lauren drops insight after insight to help you elevate your brand and build trust that lasts.

Key Takeaways:

• How branding in financial services has evolved—and why it’s time to ditch the navy and gray. [03:00]
• The real reason your website matters more than you think (yes, people are looking). [08:25]
• Why the Net Promoter Score (NPS) is a game-changer—and how to use it as a strategic advantage. [10:21]
• Marketing that leads vs. lags—how growing firms can shift their strategy and culture. [21:00]
• What it really looks like to build a marketing partnership that grows with your firm. [25:30]

Lauren Hong: "At the end of the day, marketing is about taking care of people. It’s a human-to-human business.”

Rob Brown: “Marketing isn’t just a website or color scheme—it’s a reflection of who you are and where you’re going.”

About Lauren Hong: Lauren Hong founded Out & About Communications in 2013. She has grown the agency to a team of 25+ and a client base of dozens of firms across the country. Focused exclusively on financial services, Lauren has consulted with firms ranging in size from $250M to $20B in AUM to grow, scale, and leverage marketing as a strategic asset. Today, she spearheads the strategic direction and business development of Out & About while leaning into the industry to pay it forward.

Connect with Lauren Hong:

Website: https://www.outandaboutcommunications.com/

Email: lauren@outandaboutcomm.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/honglauren/

Podcast: On Purpose: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/on-purpose/id1704209930

Episode References:

• Truest Fan Coaching
• Business Optimization Scorecard

Connect with Rob Brown:

Website: http://truestfan.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/truestfan/