In this episode of The Telestial Tea, I interview Ben Brown; the nephew of Kody Brown. Ben Brown left the polygamist cult known as the AUB or Apostolic United Brethren in 2007 & eventually converted to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints before ultimately deciding to leave Mormonism & the teachings of Joseph Smith behind entirely to pursue his own spiritual journey.

Ben found healing in humor, & is now actively working to help bring the same to others while living his life to the fullest. He's known on TikTok as "The Fresh King Benjamin" & has worked with Sunstone (see the link below) to help to educate & teach those from different religious & cultural background to empathize with each other.

I thoroughly enjoyed speaking with Ben, although I think it's important to disclose that we both have a very sarcastic sense of humor. Please do not take anything we discuss to heart, as these are our own personal experiences with both sarcastic & humorous undertones & are not meant to offend.

To read about Sunstone's mission, follow this link: https://sunstone.org/beginners-guide-to-sunstone/

You can follow him on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/thefreshkingbenjamin/

You can check out his TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@thefreshkingbenjamin

In this episode, I interview my daughters Dad who I met at seventeen & became pregnant shortly after leaving the Polygamist Cult . We discuss our religious differences, two separate custody battles, & ultimately how that brought us to where we are today & has helped us grow in a way that allows us to effectively co-parent despite our past trauma.

Watch the full video interview here: https://youtu.be/Cyraergc2Mo

In part two of this episode, I interview Amanda Rae about how she navigated dating in Vegas after her divorce & learned to set boundaries for herself during her journey of self-discovery. Amanda left The Kingston Group or as it's better known, "The Order" at seventeen & was married for six years before divorcing her husband in 2021 & moving to Vegas.

Her wedding was featured in the first episode of Escaping Polygamy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxYn9EGmUfY

To check out more of Amanda's story, check out her channel here: https://www.youtube.com/user/AmandaLovesRachel/playlists

In this episode of The Telestial Tea, I interview Amanda Rae about her life since her divorce & how she deconstructed her beliefs from The Order & habits from her marriage to start a whole new life on her own. Amanda left The Kingston Group or as it's better known, "The Order" at seventeen & was married for six years before divorcing her husband in 2021 & moving to Vegas.

Her wedding was featured in the first episode of Escaping Polygamy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxYn9EGmUfY To check out more of Amanda's

story, check out her channel here: https://www.youtube.com/user/AmandaLovesRachel/playlists

This episode features Eskel Grant, who left The Kingston Group or as it's better known, "The Order" in 2016 & then made the decision to convert to The LDS Church or Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in 2017. In this episode we discuss his personal journey in overcoming trials of faith & developing his own testimony while on his mission, all while unpacking the trauma he experienced in his childhood.

To hear more about Eskel's story, be sure to follow him on his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK-RJEV6x1kMES_o2uuzwiA