Nigel Hall is home for exactly two days, which apparently is just enough time to sit down with Derrick Freeman, Jelly Joseph, and Danny Abel for another episode of The Shadow People.This one starts with Nigel’s eye twitching from tour life, Jelly in her birthday mumu era, and the whole room trying to decide whether a meltdown is actually just your body telling you the truth. From there, it turns into records, record stores, PJ Morton, Brazil, childhood music memories, “useful hoarding,” New Orleans food, Coolinary, oysters, and why some people should not be left alone with a credit card near vinyl or keyboards.The crew also takes time to remember Jerome “Big Duck” Smith, a New Orleans civil rights legend whose work and legacy still sit deep in the culture. Then it’s back to tour communication, band family, Backline, mental health on the road, what it means to feel safe in the band, and one very important Waffle House order involving five cheese eggs.Plus: Danny pops up, Jelly starts a new one-liner segment, and New Orleans remains its own country.Like, subscribe, send us a message, and don’t you eat that beef.#TheShadowPeople #NigelHall #DerrickFreeman #JellyJoseph #DannyAbel #NewOrleansPodcast #NewOrleansMusic #Lettuce #Galactic #MusicianLife #TourLife #VinylRecords #PJMorton #BigDuckSmith #Backline #LunascendTIMESTAMPS00:00 Welcome to the United States of New Orleans00:23 Nigel’s two-day break from tour03:36 Jelly’s birthday meltdown and mumu era07:41 Feeling your feelings instead of going numb12:26 Money, comfort, and expensive record habits15:23 Vinyl collections, childhood memories, and “useful hoarding”23:40 Remembering Jerome “Big Duck” Smith27:31 Coolinary, oysters, and New Orleans food talk30:28 Tour communication, patience, and Backline40:05 Road life, safety, band family, and five cheese eggs46:52 Jelly introduces the one-liner segment

The Shadow People are back, and this one comes with a new addition to the family.

Nigel Hall and Derrick Freeman catch up after a little time away, get into the Nolan Wells story and the exhausting reality of trying to make sense of things that still don’t make sense, then somehow end up deep in the Bobby Womack / Sam Cooke / Womack Sisters family tree — which, honestly, needs its own courtroom diagram.

Then Jelly Joseph pulls up.

What started as Jelly just stopping by turns into an official welcome into The Shadow People universe. From new music and burnout to touring, New Orleans credentials, bounce records, Japan jet lag, Tubi wigs, and why sometimes you really do just need to sit down somewhere, this episode goes exactly where it was supposed to go.

We also take time to remember Dougie, the Maple Leaf, Oak Street, and the people who help keep New Orleans music culture moving.

Welcome to the family, Jelly.

As always, a shout-out to sE electonics for the sick mics!

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 The Shadow People are back
02:04 Nolan Wells and trying to process the unthinkable
15:11 Bobby Womack, Sam Cooke, and the wildest family tree ever
21:01 DeBarge, Tubi movies, and Party City wigs
23:02 Shout out to Jeremiah and JB Studios
25:03 Like, subscribe, and the return of bot talk
28:02 Jelly Joseph enters the building
28:12 Jelly officially joins The Shadow People
31:30 Burnout, comfort music, touring, and musician life
49:18 Remembering Dougie, the Maple Leaf, and New Orleans culture

Nigel Hall, Derrick Freeman, and Danny Abel are back for another episode of The Shadow People.

This week: the Michael Jackson rabbit hole continues, Danny tells the story of getting sent to Europe only to end up playing cowbell through the longest second line in Copenhagen history, the crew talks Knicks basketball, Ray J's boxing embarrassment, Very Good Tuesdays, impossibly fast tempos, and why releasing singles might actually make more sense than albums in 2026.

Plus stories from the road, New Orleans music culture, and the usual complete nonsense.

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0:00 Danny's angry Europe photo1:00 Welcome to Episode 351:20 Michael movie discussion9:50 Best music biopics17:20 Ranking Michael Jackson albums25:30 Lunascend sponsor25:50 Danny finally arrives26:40 Danny's Copenhagen cowbell disaster28:50 Knicks playoff talk34:45 Ray J gets knocked out39:00 Jeff Landry discussion42:15 We played so fast it summoned Cuz47:05 Nigel's new single48:05 Singles vs albums