The Shadow People are back, and this one comes with a new addition to the family.

Nigel Hall and Derrick Freeman catch up after a little time away, get into the Nolan Wells story and the exhausting reality of trying to make sense of things that still don’t make sense, then somehow end up deep in the Bobby Womack / Sam Cooke / Womack Sisters family tree — which, honestly, needs its own courtroom diagram.

Then Jelly Joseph pulls up.

What started as Jelly just stopping by turns into an official welcome into The Shadow People universe. From new music and burnout to touring, New Orleans credentials, bounce records, Japan jet lag, Tubi wigs, and why sometimes you really do just need to sit down somewhere, this episode goes exactly where it was supposed to go.

We also take time to remember Dougie, the Maple Leaf, Oak Street, and the people who help keep New Orleans music culture moving.

Welcome to the family, Jelly.

As always, a shout-out to sE electonics for the sick mics!

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 The Shadow People are back
02:04 Nolan Wells and trying to process the unthinkable
15:11 Bobby Womack, Sam Cooke, and the wildest family tree ever
21:01 DeBarge, Tubi movies, and Party City wigs
23:02 Shout out to Jeremiah and JB Studios
25:03 Like, subscribe, and the return of bot talk
28:02 Jelly Joseph enters the building
28:12 Jelly officially joins The Shadow People
31:30 Burnout, comfort music, touring, and musician life
49:18 Remembering Dougie, the Maple Leaf, and New Orleans culture