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The Secret Is OUT

The Secret Is OUT

著者: Stan Stadig
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The Secret Is Out tells the coming-out stories of LGBTQ people — from celebrities, athletes and musicians to people whose stories you may be hearing for the first time.

Hosted by Stan Stadig, who came out later in life himself, each episode goes beyond the moment someone said “I’m gay.” We look at the life before it: the families, faith, careers, relationships and expectations that can make living in the closet feel safer than telling the truth.

Some stories changed sports, music or popular culture. Others changed one family or one life. But they all have something in common: there was a secret, there was a reason for keeping it, and eventually, the secret came out.

These are LGBTQ coming-out stories about what it takes to hide who you are — and what can happen when you finally stop.


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  • Shift At The Center | Sally Gary: Faith, Sexuality, And The Change at CenterPeace
    2026/09/22
    Send us Fan MailShift At The Center | Sally GaryFaith, Sexuality, and the Change at CenterPeaceSally Gary spent years helping LGBTQ Christians find a place in the church. But what happened when the founder of CenterPeace changed her own beliefs about same-sex marriage?In this episode of The Secret Is OUT, host Stan Stadig tells Sally’s story—from her Church of Christ upbringing and years at Abilene Christian University to coming out, building a ministry, and finding love with Karen Keen.For fourteen years, CenterPeace made room for honest conversations about faith and sexuality while maintaining a traditional Christian view of marriage. Sally believed that view herself. She lived it, wrote about it, and became someone conservative churches trusted.Then years of listening, studying Scripture, and facing her own loneliness brought her somewhere she hadn’t expected. In October 2020, she told her own conference that she had become affirming of same-sex marriage. Then she introduced the woman she planned to marry.Throughout the shift, Sally still loved the people and places that had shaped her. Changing her mind meant risking those relationships. It also meant imagining a life she had spent decades believing was unavailable to her.Along the way, I share some of my own experience with trying to explain—and change—my sexuality. Sally’s story raises questions many of us know personally: Can I be gay and Christian? What happens when my understanding of Scripture changes? Will the people who love me still make room for me?In this episodeSally Gary’s upbringing in the Churches of Christ and connection to Abilene Christian University.Coming out privately, then speaking publicly at ACU.Why Sally founded CenterPeace for LGBTQ Christians and their families.Celibacy, loneliness, and reconsidering beliefs about same-sex marriage.Her relationship with biblical scholar Karen Keen.The 2020 announcement that changed CenterPeace.Finding belonging while staying connected to Christian faith.Written and narrated by Stan Stadig. This is a narrated account of Sally Gary’s story, drawing on her public statements, writing, and published interviews.Content note: Discussion of suicidal thoughts, family abuse, religious rejection, attempts to change sexual orientation, and long-term isolation.For further info on Sally Gary, CenterPeace, and the 2026 Conference:Visit centerpeace.net to learn about the upcoming 20th Anniversary Conference as well as the ministry, LGBTQ Christian community, retreats, and support for families.The 2026 CenterPeace Conference takes place October 15–17 in Dallas, at First United Methodist Church of Dallas. Visit the conference information and registration page for speakers, workshops, and the schedule.Explore more:CenterPeace resources on faith and sexualitySupport for parents of LGBTQ childrenLoves God, Likes Girls documentarySally’s memoir, Affirming: A Memoir of Faith, Sexuality, and Staying in the ChurchSupport and communityIf this episode brings up thoughts of suicide or you need immediate emotional support, call or text 988 in the United States or Canada.For support around faith and sexuality, CenterPeace offers community for LGBTQ people, their families, and church leaders.Music creditsWith thanks to the musicians whose work helps tell this story:Aakash Gandhi: “Invisible Beauty”; “Liquid Time”Asher Fulero: “Hopeful Freedom”Dan Lebowitz: “Take Your Time”Esther Abrami: “No.2 Remembering Her”Joel Cummins: “Resolve”JR Tundra: “Red Hot Son”The Mini Vandals: “City of the Wolf”Wayne Jones: “A Quiet Thought”; “Touching Moment”Zachariah Hickman: “Leaning On the Everlasting Arms”TunePocket Exclusive: “All Hayle To The Dayes (Modern Pop Ballad)”Chris Zabriskie: “The Temperature of the Air on the Bow of the Kaleetan”, available under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0. Mixed beneath narration and processed as part of the episode soundtrack.Additional audio credits: “Esperanza” by bmangelo; microphone feedback and tapping by freqman; road and busy-room ambience by breviceps; small-group conversation ambience by neilraouf; car-door and engine audio by nematoki; and Zoom connection audio by rachelribeiro71.References and further readingSally Gary: “Still One of You”, CenterPeace Conference, October 23, 2020.Mark Wingfield: “Meet Sally Gary, the Churches of Christ advocate for gay Christians”, Baptist News Global, March 25, 2021.Sally Gary: “Coming Out. A Quarter of a Century Later.”, December 16, 2021.Sally Gary: “My Response to ACU’s Holy Sexuality Week”, November 26, 2023.Sally Gary and James Gorman: “Interview #12 — Sally Gary”, Abilene Christian University’s Churches of Christ in the 21st Century Oral History Project, September 6, 2022.Eerdmans: “Five Questions with Sally Gary”, February 23, 2021.Nicola Menzie: “‘Loves God, Likes Girls’ Author Talks Myths Christians Believe About Same-Sex Attraction...
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  • Not Broken | Michael Passons: The Christian Singer Who Refused Conversion Therapy and Found His Voice Again
    2026/09/15

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    Not Broken | Michael Passons
    The Christian Singer from Avalon Who Refused Conversion Therapy and Found His Voice Again

    In 2003, Michael Passons was called into a meeting with the other members of Avalon, one of the biggest groups in contemporary Christian music. By the time it ended, he no longer had a job.

    The public was told Michael had left to pursue a solo career. The truth was much harder: he was gay, his bandmates knew it, and he had refused to enter conversion therapy.

    Michael had spent eight years helping Avalon earn gold records, Dove Awards, Grammy nominations and twenty number-one Christian radio singles. Then he seemingly disappeared. Behind the silence was a man trying to rebuild his life after losing his career, his community and nearly everything he thought made him valuable.

    This episode follows Michael from his childhood in Yazoo City, Mississippi, to the height of Christian music fame—and into the Nashville living room where it all came apart. It also traces the long road back: coming out publicly, returning to music and reclaiming “Testify to Love” as the inclusive anthem its words had always promised it could be.

    Michael Passons was never broken. But it took him more than twenty years to stop living as though he needed to be fixed.

    Content advisory: This episode includes discussion of conversion therapy, religious rejection and depression.

    References and further reading

    • Michael Passons Breaks Silence: His Truth About Avalon, Christian Music & 20-Year Return — The Patrick Custer Show

    • Former Avalon Singer on Coming Out, Getting Ousted and Where He Is Today — Washington Blade

    • A ’90s Christian Hit Song Is Now Blooming as a Queer Anthem — Sojourners

    • Testifying to Love: An Interview with Michael Passons, Ty Herndon and Melissa Greene — Unbound

    • Pushed Out of Christian Pop, Michael Passons Reclaims an Old Hit as an Affirming Anthem — WPLN News

    • Michael Passons: Official Biography




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  • Ricky Martin: Su salida del clóset, fe e identidad LGBTQ+ | Livin’ La Vida Privada
    2026/09/08
    Send us Fan MailAntes de vivir la vida loca, Ricky Martin tuvo que aprender a sobrevivir la vida privada.En la cima de su fama, Ricky Martin era uno de los hombres más famosos y deseados del mundo. Pero detrás de la música, los pantalones de cuero y la imagen cuidadosamente construida había un hombre gay que cargaba con vergüenza religiosa, homofobia internalizada y el temor de que decir la verdad pudiera costarle todo.En este episodio de The Secret Is OUT, Stan Stadig recorre la vida de Ricky: desde su infancia como monaguillo católico en Puerto Rico y sus años en Menudo hasta convertirse en una superestrella internacional de la música latina.Revisitamos el fenómeno de “Livin’ la Vida Loca”, la invasiva entrevista de Barbara Walters que lo hizo sentirse violado y las fuerzas que lo mantuvieron dentro del clóset: la fe, el machismo latino, la fama, la sexualidad y una industria que lo vendía como una fantasía para las mujeres.También exploramos cómo la paternidad, la espiritualidad y la escritura de sus memorias ayudaron a Ricky a aceptar su identidad, y por qué su salida del clóset en 2010 se convirtió en un momento importante para la comunidad LGBTQ+.Stan también comparte lo que significó presenciar el ascenso de Ricky siendo él mismo un cristiano gay profundamente encerrado en el clóset y con, digamos, un lugar especial en su corazón para los hombres latinos.Esta no es solamente la historia de una celebridad que salió del clóset. Es una historia sobre el precio de vivir ocultando la verdad y la libertad que se vuelve posible cuando finalmente somos nosotros quienes decidimos contarla.Aviso de contenido: Este episodio incluye conversaciones sobre trauma religioso, homofobia internalizada, preguntas invasivas de los medios y el costo emocional de permanecer en el clóset.https://www.rickymartinfoundation.org/es/REFERENCIAS DE PRODUCCIÓN Y NOTAS DE VERIFICACIÓNFUENTES NARRATIVAS PRINCIPALES[1] Recording Academy. “Mira la histórica interpretación de ‘La Copa de la Vida’ de Ricky Martin en los premios Grammy de 1999”.https://www.grammy.com/video/ricky-martin-la-copa-de-la-vida-the-cup-of-life-grammys-performance-1999-latin-explosion-rewind/[2] Billboard. “Ricky Martin vivía a lo grande en la cima del Hot 100”.https://www.billboard.com/pro/ricky-martin-livin-la-vida-loca-this-week-in-billboard-chart-history-1999/[3] ABC News. “Ricky Martin reflexiona sobre no haber estado preparado para salir del clóset como gay”. 2 de junio de 2021.https://abcnews.com/GMA/Culture/ricky-martin-reflects-ready-gay-amazing-felt/story?id=78048493[4] Kira Cochrane, The Guardian. “Ricky Martin: ‘Odiaba que la gente intentara obligarme a salir del clóset’”. 3 de julio de 2011.Fuente principal en primera persona sobre su atracción durante la infancia, la enseñanza católica, Menudo, sus relaciones, la espiritualidad, la entrevista con Barbara Walters, la paternidad y la reacción pública a su salida del clóset.https://www.theguardian.com/music/2011/jul/03/ricky-martin-hated-force-come-out[5] Hollywood Walk of Fame. “Ricky Martin”.https://walkoffame.com/ricky-martin/[6] Alex Frank, GQ. “El renacimiento de Ricky Martin”. 22 de febrero de 2024.https://www.gq.com/story/the-rebirth-of-ricky-martin[7] Jack Irvin, People. “Ricky Martin recuerda cómo su padre lo animó a salir públicamente del clóset”. 21 de marzo de 2024.https://people.com/ricky-martin-dad-encouraged-him-to-publicly-come-out-gay-8612945[8] Jason Sheeler, People. “Ricky Martin ya no quiere ocultar quién es”. 2 de junio de 2021.https://people.com/music/ricky-martin-wont-hide-anymore-man-with-no-secrets-pride-cover/[9] The Guardian. “Ricky Martin: ‘Creía que la homosexualidad era algo malo’”. 6 de mayo de 2011.El artículo recoge la declaración de Martin de que la cultura, la religión y la sociedad le enseñaron a interpretar su sexualidad como algo malo.https://www.theguardian.com/music/2011/may/06/ricky-martin-homosexuality[10] Billboard. “Los éxitos de Ricky Martin en el Hot 100”.https://www.billboard.com/music/latin/ricky-martin-hot-100-hits-7632412/[11] Entertainment Tonight. “Ricky Martin recuerda la ‘incómoda’ entrevista con Barbara Walters”. 10 de abril de 2018.https://www.etonline.com/ricky-martin-recalls-uncomfortable-barbara-walters-interview-about-his-sexuality-100035[12] Fundación Ricky Martin. Descripción oficial de su misión y sus programas.https://www.rickymartinfoundation.org/en/[13] UNICEF. “Ricky Martin”.https://www.unicef.org/goodwill-ambassadors/ricky-martin[14] Ricky Martin. Me. Celebra, 2010.Memorias autobiográficas utilizadas como fuente primaria. Página de la editorial e información de la edición:https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/309139/me-by-ricky-martin/[15] Aaron Hicklin, Out. “Out100 2010: Ricky Martin”. 9 de noviembre de 2010.https://www.out.com/out-exclusives/out100-2010/2010/11/09/out-100-ricky-martin[16] ABC ...
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