𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this heartfelt solo episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf reflects on why rural education is worth fighting for. Drawing from decades of experience as a teacher, principal, and superintendent, she shares personal stories, leadership lessons, and the unique strengths that make rural communities resilient. Dr. Sadorf highlights the “rural advantage” — the sense of belonging, ingenuity, and heart that sustain schools and communities despite limited resources. This episode is a reminder that rural education is not just work — it’s legacy.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Introduction and Purpose of the Episode
01:16 The Challenges and Rewards of Rural Education
02:02 Defining Rural Identity and Community
03:36 The Many Hats of Rural Leaders
05:10 Personal Stories and Connections
07:03 The Essence of Rural Leadership
11:57 Innovations and Adaptations in Rural Schools
14:34 Reflecting on the Importance of Rural Education
15:19 Conclusion and Call to Action
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
Dr. Sadorf closes with a message of gratitude for everyone committed to rural education. She reminds us that rural work isn’t small—it’s foundational, shaping the future of communities and generations of students. By showing up with heart and resilience, rural educators and leaders create legacies of connection, innovation, and belonging. The rural advantage lies in leading together—and when we do, we thrive together.

𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
In this episode, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Kirby Rabalais, founder of Got4titude, a coaching and community program designed to support fathers raising children with special needs. While moms are often the focus of support systems, dads frequently walk this journey in silence. Kirby shares his personal story of his son’s rare genetic diagnosis, the struggles and resilience his family has built along the way, and how he turned pain into purpose by creating a lifeline for other fathers.
This heartfelt conversation explores themes of masculinity, resilience, self-care, and redefining fatherhood in the face of challenges. Whether you’re a parent, an educator, or part of a rural community, Kirby’s story offers inspiration and practical wisdom for building strength through connection.
𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐦𝐩𝐬:
00:00 Introduction to The Rural Scoop
01:04 Meet Kirby Rabalais: Founder of Got4titude
02:11 Kirby's Personal Journey and the Birth of Got4titude
05:22 The Diagnosis and Its Impact
09:25 Redefining Fatherhood and Masculinity
17:27 Strategies for Support and Resilience
22:50 Building a Community for Fathers
25:44 Introduction to the Four Pillars
26:04 Challenges and Commonalities Among Fathers
27:19 Learning and Inspiration from Other Fathers
28:24 Advocating for Yourself and Your Child
32:59 Advice for New Fathers
35:55 Self-Care and Balancing Responsibilities
39:05 Future Vision and Measuring Success
42:49 Resources and Community Support
45:19 Final Thoughts and Reflections
𝐀𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐆𝐨𝐭𝟒𝐭𝐢𝐭𝐮𝐝𝐞:
Got4titude was born out of lived experience. After receiving his son’s rare genetic diagnosis, founder Kirby Rabalais was thrown into the emotional and logistical storm that so many parents of children with disabilities know too well. In the middle of shock, isolation, and endless questions, he realized one truth: there were almost no resources built specifically for fathers.
Instead of staying silent, Kirby decided to build what he wished he had—a place for dads to find clarity, connection, and strength. That’s how Got4titude came to life: a mission-driven community that helps fathers navigate the unpredictable road of raising children with disabilities. Through raw conversations, coaching, and practical tools, Got4titude is redefining what support looks like for dads who often feel overlooked.
𝑲𝒊𝒓𝒃𝒚’𝒔 𝒎𝒆𝒔𝒔𝒂𝒈𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒔𝒊𝒎𝒑𝒍𝒆: 𝒏𝒐 𝒇𝒂𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒘𝒂𝒍𝒌 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒓𝒐𝒂𝒅 𝒂𝒍𝒐𝒏𝒆.
- Learn more: www.got4titude.com
- Join the Inner Circle: https://www.got4titude.com/inner-circle
- Download the Fathers' Survival Toolkit (no cost): https://www.got4titude.com/store/p/fatherssurvivalkit-5dfzp-yhrcj
𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐮𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐲:
Kirby Rabalais’s journey reminds us that resilience is built not in isolation, but in connection. Through Got4titude, he’s creating a safe space where fathers of children with special needs can find courage, redefine masculinity, and learn to celebrate inchstones. His story is one of hope, healing, and advocacy—and it challenges us all to build stronger communities where no parent has to walk this path alone.

Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Andy Mink, Director of the Smithsonian Rural Initiative, to explore how the Smithsonian is extending its reach into rural communities across the United States. From traveling exhibits like Museum on Main Street to innovative partnerships with schools, libraries, and local organizations, Andy shares how the Smithsonian is reimagining itself as a true public service institution.
Together, they discuss rural priorities identified through nationwide research, how communities can access Smithsonian resources, and the importance of place-based learning and storytelling. This conversation highlights the resilience, creativity, and deep connections that define rural life—and how cultural institutions can amplify those strengths on a national stage.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction to the Smithsonian Rural Initiative
01:35 Meet Andy Mink: Director of the Smithsonian Rural Initiative
01:42 Andy Mink's Rural Background and Vision
02:58 Reimagining the Smithsonian's Role in Rural America
03:45 Defining Rurality and Its Importance
05:25 The Smithsonian's Approach to Rural Partnerships
08:18 Key Priorities for Rural America
13:42 Community Engagement and Success Stories
22:59 How to Get Involved with the Smithsonian Rural Initiative
28:24 Challenges and Opportunities in Rural Education
40:08 Future Directions and Final Thoughts
41:52 Lighthearted Q&A with Andy Mink
48:12 Conclusion and Call to Action
Closing Summary:
This episode shows how the Smithsonian is breaking down barriers and bringing world-class cultural and educational resources directly to rural America. Andy Mink reminds us that rural communities are not defined by their challenges, but by their assets, stories, and deep connections to place. By elevating rural voices on a national stage, the Smithsonian Rural Initiative helps communities preserve their past, prepare for the future, and showcase the true rural advantage.

Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Dr. Devon Brenner, President of the National Rural Education Association (NREA) and Director of the Rural Education Research and Initiatives Lab at Mississippi State University. Together, they dive into the challenges and opportunities shaping rural education today — from teacher recruitment and retention, to building stronger rural teacher prep programs, to the role of policy in sustaining thriving rural communities.
Dr. Brenner reflects on her NREA presidency, previews the upcoming National Forum to Advance Rural Education (NFARE), and shares her groundbreaking work on NSF-funded projects that address rural STEM teacher preparation and rural student belonging in higher education. They also explore her book Teaching in Rural Places and the unique role of rural educators in their schools and communities.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction to Dr. Devin Brenner
01:39 Dr. Brenner's Role and Contributions
02:39 NREA Presidency Highlights
05:48 Challenges and Stances in Rural Education
07:53 Upcoming NREA Conference
10:15 Mississippi State's Rural Education Initiatives
12:25 Collaborations Across Institutions
15:17 NSF Noyce Collaboration
20:30 Rising Network and Belonging in Rural STEM
27:05 Mississippi Education Policy Fellowship Program
32:12 Research to Practice Questions for Rural Leaders
36:24 Teaching in Rural Places
40:37 Future Directions and Rural Advantage
43:36 Conclusion and Call to Action
Closing Summary:
Dr. Devon Brenner highlights the resilience, diversity, and deep community ties that define rural education. From national policy advocacy to local partnerships, her work emphasizes that rural schools are not just places of learning — they are the heartbeat of their communities. As her NREA presidency winds down, she calls on rural leaders, educators, and higher education institutions to strengthen teacher pipelines, foster belonging for rural students, and continue building networks that sustain rural schools.
Listeners are encouraged to take practical steps: create rural teacher residencies, co-design practicums, invite local employers to career nights, and bring teams to NFARE to collaborate on solutions. The future of rural education, as Dr. Brenner reminds us, is bright — because of the people and communities at its core.

Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Dr. Bronwyn Ragan-Martin, Deputy Superintendent at the Georgia Department of Education and leader of the nation’s first Office of Rural Education and Innovation. With nearly 35 years of experience in public education and a background as superintendent in Early County, Dr. Ragan-Martin shares her inspiring leadership journey, the challenges and triumphs of rural schools, and Georgia’s innovative strategies to strengthen teacher recruitment, expand access, and support student success.
Listeners will gain insights into how rural communities can leverage resilience, partnerships, and innovation to shape the future of education—not just in Georgia, but across the nation.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction to The Rural Scoop
01:51 Dr. Bronwyn Reagan's Leadership Journey
04:55 Impact of Rural Background on State-Level Decisions
07:01 Challenges and Innovations at the State Level
11:46 Defining and Addressing Rural Needs
16:13 Current Initiatives and Exciting Projects
22:01 Teacher Recruitment and Retention Strategies
25:31 Community Engagement and Partnerships
27:37 Nurturing Innovation in Rural Schools
33:26 National Influence and Future Vision
37:09 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Closing Summary
Dr. Bronwyn Ragan-Martin’s story underscores the power of innovation, persistence, and community in shaping the future of rural education. From groundbreaking teacher apprenticeship programs to expanding digital connectivity, her leadership is ensuring that rural schools are not just included in the conversation, but are leading it.
As Dr. Sadorf reminds us, when rural voices are centered and empowered, we all rise together.
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Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Dr. Bill Chapman, Superintendent of London ISD in Texas and President-Elect of the National Rural Education Association (NREA). From his early days as a teacher and coach to leading districts and shaping national policy, Dr. Chapman shares his journey through rural education leadership.
He discusses the unique challenges facing rural schools, the importance of advocacy at both the state and federal levels, and how personal connections influence leadership. The conversation highlights resilience, innovation, and the “rural advantage” that shapes students’ lives and opportunities.
Whether you’re a rural educator, community leader, or advocate, this episode offers practical insights into building relationships, navigating policy changes, and leading with balance and purpose.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction to Dr. Bill Chapman
01:46 Dr. Chapman's Early Career in Education
03:09 Transition to Administration
05:37 Leadership Roles and Achievements
11:35 Returning to London ISD
16:54 Challenges in Texas Education Policy
26:24 Key Issues in Rural Education Advocacy
27:36 Navigating the Complexities of School Funding
29:28 The Importance of Building Relationships in Advocacy
34:58 Challenges and Innovations in Rural Leadership
39:43 Building Trust and Relationships as a Rural Leader
42:40 Advice for New Superintendents
45:35 Goals for NREA Presidency
48:02 The Rural Advantage
Closing Summary:
Dr. Bill Chapman reminds us that rural leadership is as much about relationships and visibility as it is about vision and policy. His journey shows how resilience, community ties, and advocacy at every level help rural schools thrive, even amid rapid change and legislative challenges. As he prepares to take on the role of NREA President, his commitment to strengthening rural voices and expanding opportunities stands as an inspiring model for leaders everywhere.
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Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Krista Leh, CEO of Resonance Ed and nationally recognized SEL consultant, to explore how social and emotional learning (SEL) can be woven into the daily life of schools—especially in rural communities. Krista shares her journey from high school social studies teacher to SEL leader, her philosophy that SEL is “not a program, it’s who we are,” and practical ways educators can integrate SEL without adding to their workload. From conducting SEL audits to fostering community-driven practices, Krista provides actionable strategies to help educators and leaders support both student and staff wellbeing.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction to the Rural Scoop
01:52 Meet Crystal Lay: From Teacher to CEO
04:24 The Importance of SEL in Education
06:02 Integrating SEL in Schools
10:34 SEL Audits and Coaching in Rural Schools
20:06 Challenges and Strategies for SEL Implementation
22:35 Supporting Educators' Wellbeing
25:07 Fostering Collaboration and Co-Creation
29:58 Advice for Rural Educational Leaders
34:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Resources:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-leh/
Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/resonance_ed/
Closing Summary:
This conversation with Krista Leh underscores that SEL is not an “extra” on a teacher’s plate—it’s the plate itself. By integrating social and emotional skills into every aspect of school life, educators can create stronger connections, improve student engagement, and sustain staff wellbeing. Krista’s message is clear: SEL works best when it’s authentic, embedded in daily routines, and reflective of the community’s unique identity. In rural settings, where relationships and community bonds run deep, SEL becomes a powerful tool for building the resilience and agency our students need to thrive.

Episode Summary:
In this episode of The Rural Scoop, Dr. Melissa Sadorf sits down with Dr. Greg Wyman, superintendent of the J.O. Combs Unified School District and author of the Substack Celebrating Traditional K–12 Public Education. With over four decades of service, Greg shares his leadership journey across Arizona’s rural and suburban schools, the principles that have shaped his career, and his vision for the future of rural education. From building trust in communities to advocating for policy changes, Greg offers practical wisdom for current and aspiring education leaders, while challenging the false narratives that often surround public schools.
Time Stamps:
00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
01:21 Greg Wyman's Career Journey
03:34 Foundations of Leadership
06:31 Building Trust in Rural Communities
09:57 The Hashtag Forward Initiative
13:22 Human-Centered Leadership
16:13 The Importance of Storytelling in Education
20:56 Challenges and Policy Debates in Education
24:42 Staying Informed and Involved
27:48 The Importance of Community and Positivity
28:17 Balancing Accountability and Flexibility in Education
29:21 The Role of Hard Work and Lifelong Learning
32:35 The Value of Relationships in Advocacy
35:27 Building Knowledge and Solutions for Effective Leadership
39:06 Celebrating Wins and Maintaining Positivity
41:43 Mentorship and Succession Planning in Education
43:39 Advice for Aspiring Rural Leaders
46:48 Future of Rural Education: Challenges and Opportunities
50:35 The Rural Advantage: Building Strong Relationships
53:00 Conclusion and Call to Action

Resources:
Substack: wymang.substack.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-wyman-ba114b34/
BlueSky: @greg-wyman.bsky.social
Closing Summary:
Dr. Greg Wyman’s story is one of resilience, relationship-building, and unwavering advocacy for public education. Through decades of service in districts both large and small, he has modeled the power of trust, community engagement, and keeping people at the center of leadership. His insights on policy, storytelling, and the “rural advantage” offer a roadmap for leaders determined to strengthen their schools despite challenges. Whether you’re a seasoned superintendent or an aspiring rural educator, Greg’s message is clear: build relationships, tell your story, and never stop fighting for your community’s children.