Two in ten people love what they do. The other eight show up disconnected, going through the motions, or actively working against the team.

Jeremy Pietrocini pulls from Gallup data to show how leaders misread this problem. They try to fix teams instead of looking at the energy they bring into the room each day. He and Phil discuss the difference between employees who are simply present and those who are actively disengaged (the ones who would make the organization more productive if they stayed home).

The shift starts when leaders examine their own state. A leader who is fully charged creates trust, stability, and hope. A leader who is drained creates fear, confusion, and withdrawal.

Jeremy ties this to simple patterns like how leaders listen, how they create freedom, and whether people feel safe to show up as themselves.

The result is a move from compliance to real engagement, where people bring effort, ownership, and energy because they feel it from the person leading them.

0:00 Intro

02:10 Jeremy’s Backstory

05:10 The Leadership Reality of Disengagement

08:18 What Drives Engagement

11:00 Aliveness as the Real Leadership Test

14:15 What to Do When You’re Running on Empty

18:00 Trust, Compassion, Stability, and Hope

22:24 Work Life Integration vs. Balance

27:19 Listen, Love, Liberate

33:15 Freedom Inside Organizations

38:21 Authentic Leadership and Psychological Safety

43:52 Faith and Leadership at Work

51:23 RECREATE Work’s Mission

Resources Mentioned:

Connect with Jeremy:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-pietrocini

RECREATE Work:

https://recreatework.com

Gallup:

https://www.gallup.com

CliftonStrengths:

https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths

📚 Fully Charged by Tom Rath

📚 Strengths Based Leadership by Tom Rath and Barry Conchie

📚 First Break All The Rules by Marcus Buckingham and Curt Coffman

📚 Beyond High Performance by Jason Jaggard

📚 12: The Elements of Great Managing

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Tom Burden built the company, got the recognition, and stepped onto Shark Tank at age 26…

But it still didn’t settle anything internally.

Even at that level, he found himself dealing with imposter syndrome and a persistent sense that something wasn’t adding up.

So the question became: what actually changes that?

Today, Phil and Tom unpack why success doesn’t resolve unworthiness, and how it often deepens the need to prove yourself.

0:00 Intro

04:29 Preparation for Shark Tank

15:58 Using Value Instead of Money

19:12 Origins of Grind Culture

22:54 Healthy Motivation for Improvement

27:48 Learning Through Failure

28:51 Awareness as a Foundation

35:46 Finding Direction Through Presence

41:43 Future Based Thinking and Anxiety

48:24 Purpose in the Present

Resources Mentioned:

🎙️ Intuition of a CEO YouTube Channel

www.youtube.com/@tom.theburden

📚 The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle

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Leadership is often pursued through success, but sustained through suffering.

Dr. Daniel Tataje joins Phil to trace his path from building a fast growing dental organization to confronting the cost of neglecting his role at home.

He describes chasing success until it lost meaning, facing breakdown in his family, and rebuilding through discipline, self denial, and a reframed understanding of love as sacrifice.

Rather than systems or tactics, this conversation is grounded in responsibility, trust, and the internal standard required to lead without choosing comfort.

0:00 Intro

01:24 Daniel’s Background and Business Journey

04:12 Building a Business on Integrity and Trust

06:07 Wealth vs. Impact in Business

10:39 Chasing the Fake Rabbit of Success

13:18 Family Struggles and Blind Spots

15:36 The Fitness Program That Sparked Transformation

18:53 Learning to Suffer and Lead

26:15 Leadership Impact on Family and Business

30:29 Discipline Is Not Optional

37:13 Fathers for Christ Program

Resources Mentioned:

Connect with Dr. Daniel Tataje:

https://danieltataje.com

Mercy Dental Group:

https://www.mercydentalwi.com/

Fathers for Christ:

https://www.fathersforchrist.com/

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