Two in ten people love what they do. The other eight show up disconnected, going through the motions, or actively working against the team.

Jeremy Pietrocini pulls from Gallup data to show how leaders misread this problem. They try to fix teams instead of looking at the energy they bring into the room each day. He and Phil discuss the difference between employees who are simply present and those who are actively disengaged (the ones who would make the organization more productive if they stayed home).

The shift starts when leaders examine their own state. A leader who is fully charged creates trust, stability, and hope. A leader who is drained creates fear, confusion, and withdrawal.

Jeremy ties this to simple patterns like how leaders listen, how they create freedom, and whether people feel safe to show up as themselves.

The result is a move from compliance to real engagement, where people bring effort, ownership, and energy because they feel it from the person leading them.

0:00 Intro

02:10 Jeremy’s Backstory

05:10 The Leadership Reality of Disengagement

08:18 What Drives Engagement

11:00 Aliveness as the Real Leadership Test

14:15 What to Do When You’re Running on Empty

18:00 Trust, Compassion, Stability, and Hope

22:24 Work Life Integration vs. Balance

27:19 Listen, Love, Liberate

33:15 Freedom Inside Organizations

38:21 Authentic Leadership and Psychological Safety

43:52 Faith and Leadership at Work

51:23 RECREATE Work’s Mission

Resources Mentioned:

Connect with Jeremy:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-pietrocini

RECREATE Work:

https://recreatework.com

Gallup:

https://www.gallup.com

CliftonStrengths:

https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths

📚 Fully Charged by Tom Rath

📚 Strengths Based Leadership by Tom Rath and Barry Conchie

📚 First Break All The Rules by Marcus Buckingham and Curt Coffman

📚 Beyond High Performance by Jason Jaggard

📚 12: The Elements of Great Managing

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Tom Burden built the company, got the recognition, and stepped onto Shark Tank at age 26…

But it still didn’t settle anything internally.

Even at that level, he found himself dealing with imposter syndrome and a persistent sense that something wasn’t adding up.

So the question became: what actually changes that?

Today, Phil and Tom unpack why success doesn’t resolve unworthiness, and how it often deepens the need to prove yourself.

0:00 Intro

04:29 Preparation for Shark Tank

15:58 Using Value Instead of Money

19:12 Origins of Grind Culture

22:54 Healthy Motivation for Improvement

27:48 Learning Through Failure

28:51 Awareness as a Foundation

35:46 Finding Direction Through Presence

41:43 Future Based Thinking and Anxiety

48:24 Purpose in the Present

Resources Mentioned:

🎙️ Intuition of a CEO YouTube Channel

www.youtube.com/@tom.theburden

📚 The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle

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Leadership is often pursued through success, but sustained through suffering.

Dr. Daniel Tataje joins Phil to trace his path from building a fast growing dental organization to confronting the cost of neglecting his role at home.

He describes chasing success until it lost meaning, facing breakdown in his family, and rebuilding through discipline, self denial, and a reframed understanding of love as sacrifice.

Rather than systems or tactics, this conversation is grounded in responsibility, trust, and the internal standard required to lead without choosing comfort.

0:00 Intro

01:24 Daniel’s Background and Business Journey

04:12 Building a Business on Integrity and Trust

06:07 Wealth vs. Impact in Business

10:39 Chasing the Fake Rabbit of Success

13:18 Family Struggles and Blind Spots

15:36 The Fitness Program That Sparked Transformation

18:53 Learning to Suffer and Lead

26:15 Leadership Impact on Family and Business

30:29 Discipline Is Not Optional

37:13 Fathers for Christ Program

Resources Mentioned:

Connect with Dr. Daniel Tataje:

https://danieltataje.com

Mercy Dental Group:

https://www.mercydentalwi.com/

Fathers for Christ:

https://www.fathersforchrist.com/

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Here’s a question most people don’t actually answer:

What level are you leading at?

Early in his career, Phil could get work done just by writing instructions and handing them off. The job got done, but not much beyond it.

Most leaders never move past that pattern (even when they start getting results). That’s where the ceiling shows up.

In this episode, Phil walks through the five levels of leadership, but spends most of the time on one problem:

Why results become the stopping point…and what has to change if you want your leadership to actually scale beyond you.

0:00 Intro

0:29 What Level Are You Leading At?

04:04 Moving from Position to Relationship

05:29 Character, Competence, and Connection

11:14 Why Leaders Get Stuck at Results

12:33 Developing People and Scaling Impact

22:19 Assessing Your Leadership Level and Growth Plan

Resources Mentioned:

📚 The 5 Levels of Leadership by John Maxwell

Focus 3 Leadership training

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Pat Hiban meets a stranger while tying his shoes before a run in Chicago. That moment turns into a business partner years later. Another introduction leads to the CEO of a company he co-founded…

None of it was planned, but those moments stacked. Real estate conventions. random trips. accountability partners. Each connection built into GoBundance and multiple businesses.

The pattern is simple but uncomfortable: he kept putting himself in rooms where he knew no one, then followed through when something clicked.

That same pattern showed up in his career decisions. Ten businesses started, eight failed, two worked.

The outcomes look clean in hindsight, but the process wasn’t. Relationships determined which opportunities would last and which would collapse.

The life he lives now is built on the people he chose to stay connected to decades earlier. You just never know WHO.

0:00 Intro

00:59 Building a Real Estate Career

02:18 Team Building and the 2008 Collapse

06:00 “ELF” Businesses and Repeated Failures

09:12 The Origin of GoBundance

12:00 Meeting Future Partners by Chance

15:09 How to Build an Accountability Partner

18:29 Scaling GoBundance Without a Guru Model

23:41 Designing Life Around Time and Freedom

25:41 The Reality of Investing Wins and Losses

29:17 Success vs Fulfillment by Life Phase

Resources Mentioned:

GoBundance

https://gobundance.com

📚 Tribe of Millionaires

https://tribeofmillionaires.com

📚 6 Steps to 7 Figures by Pat Hiban

📚 The Quitter’s Manifesto by Pat Hiban

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Michael Durant’s helicopter was hit by a rocket propelled grenade over Mogadishu. And if you’ve seen the movie, you know what happened next…

The crash left him with a broken femur, crushed vertebrae, and surrounded by enemy fighters. Within minutes, the crash site was overrun and he became the only surviving crew member.

In his conversation with Phil, Durant recounts the events of the Battle of Mogadishu and the moments after the aircraft went down.

But the conversation does not stay on the battlefield.

Durant reflects on the mindset that followed his survival. He explains why he never carried survivor guilt, why fear of failure faded after Somalia, and why the real obligation after surviving is not regret but responsibility.

When others risk their lives for you, the question becomes what you choose to do with the life that remains.

0:00 Intro

01:11 Battle of Mogadishu

08:07 The Helicopter Crash

12:23 Defending Crash Site Two

19:55 Captured and Taken Prisoner

26:17 Proof of Life Interrogation Video

31:18 Survivor Guilt and Responsibility

33:38 Fear of Failure After Somalia

38:30 The Four Elements of Recovery

46:18 People and Culture in Elite Teams

52:07 Leadership Defined as Responsibility

Resources Mentioned:

📚 In The Company Of Heroes by Michael Durant

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Brian Murray built and managed over a billion dollars in real estate. From the outside, it looked like the pinnacle of business success…. Internally, it felt empty.

In his conversation with Phil, Brian explains how reaching a major financial milestone forced him to confront a difficult truth:

Professional achievement did not deliver the joy he expected.

That realization, combined with a serious car accident and a trek to Everest Base Camp, began a five year shift away from control, pressure, and performance driven identity.

He reflects on how business culture can draw out unhealthy personas, how attachment to outcomes distorts self worth, and why seeds are planted in the dark.

The conversation centers on responsibility, self awareness, and what it means to cultivate a life instead of chasing one.

0:00 Intro

01:54 Defining Himself Beyond Achievement

04:32 The Emptiness of a Billion Dollar Milestone

07:19 Spiritual Shift After Business Success

12:56 Writing the Book and Practicing Presence

18:01 Business Pressure and the Control Persona

20:41 Seeds Are Planted in the Dark

24:12 Intuition Over Rigid Goal Setting

30:53 Choosing Vulnerability and Publishing the Book

38:31 Service, Simplicity, and Caring for Rescued Animals

41:01 Where to Find Brian

Resources Mentioned:

📚 Crushing It in Apartments and Commercial Real Estate by Brian Murray

📚 Welcome to My Garden by Brian Murray

Freedom Hollow:

https://www.freedomhollow.org

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David Osborn built extraordinary success, but real freedom didn’t come from money. It came from trust.

In this conversation with Phil Moeller, David reflects on the long process of proving himself to himself. From growing up between scarcity and privilege to raising children in abundance, he shares how purpose, example, and personal responsibility shape the kind of person success can flow toward.

The discussion explores the difference between goals and identity, why community and vulnerability accelerate growth, and how freedom evolves from external achievement to internal peace. For David, abundance is less about resources and more about the lens you choose, believing life is working with you rather than against you.

This episode is about becoming someone you trust, redefining freedom beyond performance, and building a life that feels lighter on the inside.

0:00 Intro

01:26 Forging His Own Path

03:58 Growing Up Poor in a Wealthy Environment

07:22 Parenting with Purpose and Kindness

11:12 The Moment That Cemented There Is a Purpose

21:18 Specific Goals vs. Intentions

28:35 Redefining Freedom Beyond Money

31:47 Proving Himself to Himself and Finding Peace

35:20 Choosing Abundance Over Victimhood

Resources Mentioned:

📚 Wealth Can’t Wait by David Osborn

📚 Tribe of Millionaires by David Osborn

📚 Miracle Morning Millionaires by Hal Elrod and David Osborn

GoBundance

https://gobundance.com

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