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Join Jennie and Dianne for an Ordinary Extraordinary conversation as they dig up the truth with special guest Bob Perry, aka the Bone Finder! With his expertise in cemetery geophysics and ground-penetrating radar, Bob has uncovered secrets in historic cemeteries and helped law enforcement crack cold cases. The graves are about to get a whole lot more interesting on this episode of the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast!

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"Grief is forever. It doesn't go away; it becomes a part of you, step for step, breath for breath - That's just how it is. Grief and love are conjoined, you don't get one without the other. " - Jandy Nelson, The Sky is Everywhere -- Grief is a universal experience, but it's unique to each individual. On this episode of The Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast Jennie and Dianne tackle the tough topic of grief, exploring different types of loss and the emotional, physical, and psychological impact of mourning. They also share ways to offer meaningful support to those who are grieving, offer some online resources and discuss how cemeteries can be places of solace, comfort and even healing.

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If you or someone you know is grieving and looking for additional support here some local resources that may be able to help: hospitals, public libraries, religious institutions, schools, and community centers. There are also many online resources including: https://good-grief.org/resources/

https://www.missfoundation.org/

https://www.opentohope.com/

https://willowhouse.org/

https://whatsyourgrief.com/

Are you a cemetery or a cemetery volunteer? Please take a moment to take the "Cemetery Tourism Survey" https://6y8fuazgsp8.typeform.com/cemeterytourism The survey is created by Liz Clappin, host of Tomb With a View Podcast, and her Ashlynn Rickord Werner. They are collecting data from cemeteries across the country to understand the challenges and varied ways they approach tourism. They hope this data will help better inform historic cemeteries how to best use tourism as a tool for long term preservation. The survey takes approximately 7 minutes to complete.

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Discover the untold stories of two Ordinary men who became Extraordinary unsung heroes. This week on the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast, Jennie and Dianne share the stories of George Wasinger and John Wysowatcky Jr., two young soldiers who embodied the Army's motto: "This We'll Defend" during WWI. They defended freedom by giving their lives in return. As Memorial Day approaches, we remember the sacrifice made by all the men and women who have died in combat and acknowledge the debt we owe to those who gave everything in hopes of creating a more peaceful and prosperous tomorrow for future generations.

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Resources used to research this episode include various documents, records, and newspaper articles found at www.ancestry.com and www.newspapers.com in addition to the following:

"Obituary Record by the Olinger Mortuary." The Rocky Mountain News [Denver], 62nd ed., 21 Oct. 1921, p. 9.

"Services Will Be Held for George Wassinger." The Rocky Mountain News [Denver], 62nd ed., 13 Jan. 1921, p. 7.

Sullivan , Evan P. "“Considerable Grief”: Dead Bodies, Mortuary Science, and Repatriation after the Great War ." https://nursingclio.org/. 18 Apr. 2019. nursingclio.org/2019/04/18/considerable-grief-dead-bodies-mortuary-science-and-repatriation-after-the-great-war/. Accessed 18 May 2025.

Finn, Tara. "The war that did not end at 11am on 11 November ." https://history.blog.gov.uk/. 9 Nov. 2018. history.blog.gov.uk/2018/11/09/the-war-that-did-not-end-at-11am-on-11-november/. Accessed 18 May 2025.

Persico, MHQ, Joseph E. "Nov. 11, 1918: Wasted Lives on Armistice Day ." https://www.armytimes.com/. 9 Nov. 2017. www.armytimes.com/veterans/salute-veterans/2017/11/10/nov-11-1918-wasted-lives-on-armistice-day/. Accessed 18 May 2025.

Stewart , Richard W. "Blood, Mud, Concrete, and Barbed Wire: The Meuse-Argonne Offensive ." https://www.armyheritage.org/. www.armyheritage.org/soldier-stories-information/blood-mud-concrete-and-barbed-wire-the-meuse-argonne-offensive/. Accessed 18 May 2025.

"The Soldier's Burden." http://www.kaiserscross.com/. www.kaiserscross.com/40312/42469.html. Accessed 18 May 2025.

"Globeville Neighborhood History ." https://history.denverlibrary.org/. history.denverlibrary.org/neighborhood-history-guide/globeville-neighborhood-history. Accessed 18 May 2025.

"History of Germans from Russia ." https://library.ndsu.edu/. library.ndsu.edu/grhc/research-history/history-germans-russia. Accessed 18 May 2025.

Wiese, Owen. "The 89th Division, A Great Accomplishment ." https://www.garretsongazette.com/. 29 Apr. 2020. www.garretsongazette.com/the-89th-division-a-great-accomplishment/. Accessed 18 May 2025.

English Jr, George H. History of the 89th Division, U.S.A.. 1st ed., 1920. Denver, The War Society of the 89th Division , 1920, pp. 1 - 544.