The dream is the music. The longevity is the paperwork. We dig into the real steps that turn a tight-knit band into a professional, protected business without draining the joy that brought you together. From first royalty registrations to company formation, we walk through the decisions that keep friendships intact and revenue flowing when momentum arrives.

We start where money actually tracks you: collection societies. Learn how to register with your local PRO for songwriting royalties and with neighbouring rights organisations to capture income from recordings played in public. Then we move to your identity. A band name is a brand, so we outline practical ways to check for conflicts on DSPs and file an official trademark with the right government office, avoiding scams and needless fees.

Contracts don’t kill the vibe; they protect it. We unpack interband agreements in plain English: who owns the name and artwork, how master rights are split, and how song splits are decided with clear split sheets. We get specific about recoupment, band bank accounts, spending categories, and voting systems that resolve deadlocks. Lineup changes happen, so we plan for exits, additions, and the difficult what-ifs, making sure rights and income remain transparent.

Finally, we compare legal structures that actually suit bands: limited company, partnership, and LLP. You’ll hear the trade-offs on liability, tax, flexibility and member changes, plus when to stay self-employed versus incorporating. The goal is simple: keep the bond, reduce the friction, and prepare for success before it knocks. If this conversation helps you avoid a fight, a fee, or a missed cheque, it’s worth it. Enjoy the episode, and if it resonates, subscribe, share it with your bandmates, and leave a quick review so we can help more creators build sustainable careers.

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What if you could stop guessing your audience and start growing it with proof? I sit down with Waylon Barnes—entrepreneur, musician, and CEO of C2 Management—to map out how modern artists turn attention into a real business. We dig into the mechanics of audience discovery using data and social listening, why so many campaigns miss the mark when they rely on hunches, and the practical steps that make every pound work harder.

Waylon pulls back the curtain on a quiet industry shift: labels increasingly outsource marketing to specialised teams, which means independent artists can access the same playbooks without giving up control. We explore how to structure your strategy so the music sparks attention while the business around the music pays the bills—think sync deals, brand partnerships, merch, touring, and appearances. You’ll hear how streaming acts as public proof rather than a paycheck, why platform virality matters but shouldn’t be your home base, and what it takes to build an ecosystem you actually own.

We also tackle the streaming payout problem and the reforms that would move artists closer to a living wage. To ground it all, Waylon shares three principles for newcomers that cut through paralysis: don’t overthink, don’t fear mistakes, and take yourself seriously. If you’ve been wondering how to choose a single, when to invest in marketing, or how to keep control while scaling your team, this conversation offers a candid blueprint for sustainable growth.

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What if a 97-year family legacy held the blueprint for making songs travel further, earn more, and outlast the hype cycle? I sit with Ralph W. Peer, Managing Director at peermusic UK and Australasia and VP for Africa and the Middle East, to explore the legacy of a a century-old global publishing powerhouse. From post‑war royalty runs to today’s data firehose, Ralph opens the black box of publishing so creators can see where value is built.

We dig into the art of cross-cultural collaboration and why place still matters. Ralph shares how Australia’s first international writing camp flipped the “fly to LA” script, bringing US writers to Melbourne to capture local flavour and global polish. Expect stories that connect South African Ama piano, Brazilian funk, and drill with mainstream pop momentum, plus practical ways to curate rooms that produce export-ready songs without losing identity.

On the business side, we break down global administration and the quiet power of local expertise. Ralph explains why how some collection societies differ from common law systems, how technology accelerates matching, and why relationships still close the gaps that software can only flag. We chart the new economics of catalogue in streaming—why enduring songs appreciate as frontline hits churn faster—and show how production music and one-stop clearances help supervisors say yes when budgets and timelines shrink.

The AI conversation gets real: inputs versus outputs, transparency, opt-in licensing, and why betting on fair use is a risky business plan. Rather than waiting for courts, Ralph argues for workable licensing frameworks that protect writers and reward innovation. If you create, manage, or monetise songs, this is a field guide to making your rights travel—across borders, formats, and decades.

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