What if the fear of being seen is the very thing holding back your destiny?

In this deeply personal solo episode, Emily exposes the spiritual and emotional toll of hiding your truth — and shares the exact process she used to break free from the spirit of rejection.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

• The #1 reason most people stay hidden in their brand and life
• Why rejection is a spiritual refinement, not a failure
• The exact steps to break free from fear and fully show up
• The spiritual truth that unlocks your confidence
• How to co-create boldly with God, even when your voice shakes

Timestamps:

(01:34) - Why we fear being seen (03:33) - Emily’s personal story: rejection, mentors, and obedience (06:35) - The stage moment that triggered Emily’s fear (08:58) - Pleasing man vs obeying God (11:45) - What fear of rejection actually means (13:14) - Why playing small is not being humble (15:40) - Frozen by fear, not lack of strategy (19:55) - Step-by-step framework to release fear and walk boldly in identity (23:51) - Rejection is refinement (26:34) - What God says about being seen (28:43) - Anchoring your brand in identity, not approval (30:35) - Consumption vs. creation: the brand killer (31:35) - Go be seen! (You were never meant to stay hidden)

• Website | https://meetemilyford.com
• On Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/itsemily
• On Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/itsemilymethod
• On YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/c/ITSEMILYFORD
• Fordivine | https://www.fordivine.com

We started with nothing but a bold idea, relentless faith, and a calling we can’t ignore. We thought we were just building a brand. But God was building us.

In this powerful conversation, we reveal the raw, unfiltered story of how FORDIVINE HQ was built—the real challenges, divine guidance, and pivotal decisions that shaped our path as entrepreneurs and partners in marriage.

You’ll discover:

• The emotional cost of building a business with your spouse
• How to know when your vision is really from God
• What to do when you’re in the “messy middle” and nothing makes sense
• How FORDIVINE HQ went from idea to a 5,200 sq ft headquarters
• Why spiritual obedience leads to real-world provision

Timestamps:

(02:50) - Why we needed a real HQ (and the spiritual reason behind it) (06:09) - From test clients to scaling fast: the Fordivine origin story (10:12) - Branding, biblical values, and business (14:41) - Jake’s journey to becoming CEO (and the identity crisis it sparked) (18:14) - The friction that tested our marriage (23:51) - Discernment, resistance, and spiritual clarity (32:34) - The God-story behind Fordivine (40:25) - What finally gave us peace (46.31) - Inside The Fordivine Retreat (49:34) - Advice for married entrepreneurs (53:16) - What men and women really need in marriage (1:09:09) - What God revealed after the obedience (1:15:18) - Final word for entrepreneurs of faith

• Website | http://www.jakehavron.com
• Podcast | https://www.jakehavron.com/podcast
• Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/jakehavron
• YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxG3bKqLK_M_HZpOgiVrtng

• Website | https://meetemilyford.com
• On Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/itsemily
• On Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/itsemilymethod
• On YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/c/ITSEMILYFORD
• Join the Fortify Method | https://www.fordivine.com
• Join Fordivine Retreat | https://fordivine.com/retreat

You’re doing everything right. So why do you still feel shame? Cathy Greer unpacks the hidden damage of perfectionism, spiritual misalignment, and the quiet breakdown inside high-achieving women.

Cathy Greer is a faith-driven entrepreneur, speaker, and identity coach who has led over 9,000 freedom healing sessions. She helps women heal from shame, release performance-based living, and step into the life God truly called them to.

She reveals:

• The subtle lies that keep you trapped in shame
• Why manifestation culture can leave you spiritually empty
• How your body holds the spiritual wounds you won’t talk about
• What real surrender looks like after losing everything
• Why true confidence isn’t built on achievement

⏱ Time Stamps:

(00:00) - Intro (04:54) - How Cathy learned to yield instead of control (05:12) - Transition to surrender instead of striving (06:36) - The breakdown of marriage, identity, and faith (08:17) - Entering the “Ministry of Marriage” as teamwork (11:16) - Common identity issues in high-performing women (12:18) - Choosing surrender when everything falls apart (15:01) - The value of humility over self-reliance (17:23) - Obedience unlocks divine acceleration (23:32) - Redefining manifestation through co-laboring with God (25:40) - Reality check: why manifestation often fails (34:34) - How emotional + spiritual wounds show up in your body (38:51) - Deliverance, strongholds, and rejection healing (40:54) - Recovering your voice after trauma (43:16) - Recognizing spiritual warfare in daily life (45:34) - Identity vs performance: where confidence starts (47:56) - Breaking free from the spirit of shame (49:36) - Prophetic insight for next-generation leaders (52:41) - The importance of wise counsel and community (56:22) - How to connect with Cathy and book a session

Follow Cathy:

• Website | https://www.cathygreer.org/
• Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/stuartandcathygreer/
• Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/cgreer1
• LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuartandcathygreer/

More from Emily & Fordivine:

• Website | https://meetemilyford.com
• On Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/itsemily
• On Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/itsemilymethod
• On YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/c/ITSEMILYFORD
• Fordivine | https://www.fordivine.com