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The Higher Valleys Podcast

The Higher Valleys Podcast

著者: Spencer Paysinger & Jelani Jenkins
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The Higher Valleys Podcast is an ongoing conversation about all things fatherhood from friends and former NFL athletes Spencer Paysinger and Jelani Jenkins. The show offers an unfiltered perspective on how to show up fully at home while thriving professionally.

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  • Liberation Starts at Home w/ Héritier Lumumba
    2025/07/16

    In this episode, Jelani and Spencer are joined by global activist, father of three, and former pro athlete Lumumba—a man who lives at the intersection of truth, freedom, and fatherhood. What begins with lighthearted reflections on potty training setbacks and “Major Payne” parenting moments unfolds into a deeply layered conversation on identity, trauma, and generational healing.

    Lumumba opens up about the spiritual and political journey of reclaiming his African name, growing up disconnected from his father and culture, and how becoming a parent called him deeper into his purpose. Together, the trio explores what it means to raise free Black children in a world still entangled with colonial systems—from language to legislation, education to emotional expression.

    From rethinking the school-to-prison pipeline to confronting the myths around cannabis, this episode is part memoir, part masterclass. We talk presence. We talk purpose. We talk truth.

    And we close, as always, with a moving Legacy Letter—this time from Lumumba to his three young sons, as he commits to breaking cycles and building memory with intention.


    🔎 In This Episode:

    • How trauma rewires the inner voice—and how coaching can sound like war
    • Parenting with empathy instead of shame (even when you’re losing patience)
    • Why reclaiming a name is deeper than semantics—it’s spiritual resistance
    • How intergenerational absence fuels present-day purpose
    • Dr. Bird’s insights on reading, language, and early development
    • The quiet roots of the school-to-prison pipeline
    • Why cannabis has been both medicine and weapon—and why that matters now
    • Building a digital legacy our grandkids will feel
    • Legacy Letter: Lumumba speaks to his sons about truth, presence, and love


    💬 Quotes to Remember:


    “When you bring logic into a kid’s world, you lose. You’ve got to bring relatability.” – Spencer Paysinger


    “I was the only one in my white institution of family going through a Black experience.” – Lumumba


    “I don’t know any other way than to seek the truth. Because it’s the only place you can build from.” – Lumumba


    “One of the biggest head starts in life is knowing where you come from.” – Lumumba


    “Get ‘em ahead of the curve. That’s the game.” – Dr. Bird (via Lumumba)



    📍 Call to Action:

    If this episode cracked something open in you—send it to a father, freedom-fighter, or educator in your life.

    Got a Legacy Letter to share? Want to reflect on how you’re raising free kids in a complex world?

    🎧 Drop us a voice note. We’d love to hear from you.

    Send us a text

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    1 時間 17 分
  • A Dream Reimagined
    2025/07/08

    In this episode, Jelani and Spencer reflect on the meaning of Independence Day—from the literal fireworks in Inglewood to the symbolic ones lighting up in the culture, politics, and fatherhood. What starts as playful banter about neighborhood geography, backyard fireworks, and Beyoncé concerts evolves into a powerful conversation about legacy, displacement, and redefining what it means to be free.

    Spencer opens up about the emotional process of losing the home his family had in escrow—what it meant to him as a father, husband, and steward of his community. Jelani honors the symbolism of this moment and explores how we lead with vulnerability while still protecting the spirit of our families.

    From navigating gentrification in historic Black neighborhoods to raising children with critical consciousness in a complicated America, this episode doesn’t shy away from the real. The two also dive into Beyoncé’s cultural impact, the symbolism of the American flag, and the implications of the “big, beautiful bill” currently moving through legislation.

    And to close? A heartfelt Legacy Letter from Spencer to his son Madden on his 6th birthday that’ll have you pausing and reflecting on your own legacy.


    In This Episode:

    • Reclaiming the American Flag as Black fathers
    • Losing a dream home—and grieving with grace
    • Fireworks in Inglewood vs. fireworks in the soul
    • Mental shackles & the elephant analogy
    • Beyoncé as the symbol of modern-day reclamation
    • The symbolism vs. reality of the “Big Beautiful Bill”
    • Gentrification, generational wealth, and who gets to stay
    • Teaching kids how to question, honor, and redefine symbols
    • Legacy Letter: Spencer honors his son Madden on his 6th birthday


    Quotes to Remember:

    “It’s crazy how many of us are like those circus elephants—huge in size, but held back by mental chains we stopped questioning long ago.” – Jelani Jenkins


    “To me, America is my neighbor. It’s the community I build. The government doesn’t get to own that.” – Spencer Paysinger


    “The flag doesn’t owe me allegiance. But my children? They do deserve truth. And I’ll fight for a version of America that honors them.” – Jelani Jenkins


    Call to Action:

    🎧 Got thoughts, questions, or a legacy letter of your own? Drop us a voice message. We’d love to hear from you.


    If this episode resonated with you, text it to a fellow father, freedom-fighter, or Beyoncé stan.

    Send us a text

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    1 時間 8 分
  • Two & Through w/ Justin Tinsley
    2025/06/29

    It’s the first guest episode of Higher Valleys, and we had to kick things off with family—literally. Journalist, author, ESPN personality, and proud dad Justin Tinsley joins us to talk fatherhood, legacy, and what it means to try to figure it all out while building something bigger than yourself.

    From vasectomy stories to navigating dad guilt, from the legacy of icons like Biggie, Nipsey, and Kobe to the little moments that actually define fatherhood—this conversation is real, reflective, and full of laughs. We swap stories about raising kids, chasing careers, managing marriages, and why two kids is the sweet spot for man-to-man defense (because three? That’s zone coverage, and it gets tricky).

    We also get into Justin’s storytelling journey—from growing up without a father to building a career that centers Black culture, community, and stories that live beyond the headlines.

    If you’re trying to show up for your kids, chase your purpose, and leave your mark on the world—this one’s for you.


    Key Topics Covered:

    ✔️ The real reason Justin never played football (you’ll laugh)

    ✔️ Zone defense vs. man-to-man… in the house (parenting strategy breakdown)

    ✔️ The vasectomy convo every dad eventually faces

    ✔️ Dad guilt while chasing your purpose — how to deal with it

    ✔️ Growing up without a father & the lessons it taught Justin

    ✔️ Behind the scenes of Justin’s ESPN journey & King of Crenshaw

    ✔️ The legacy of Nipsey Hussle & Biggie — how it hits different as a dad

    ✔️ Storytelling as immortality — why our words outlive us

    ✔️ How to stay present with your kids, even when life pulls you away

    ✔️ Marriage maintenance: why parenting can’t come at the expense of your partnership

    ✔️ Leaving a timestamp for your kids to look back on — the power of conversations like this


    Quotable Moments:


    “There’s no zone coverage at home — the gaps will get exposed. Man-to-man defense only.” — Spencer


    “Legacy isn’t just for the world to see. It’s how your kids see you… today, and years from now.” — Jelani


    “The most important thing I can do is be present when I’m allowed to be present… and when I’m not, go do what I gotta do so I can get back.” — Justin Tinsley


    “Storytelling gives us a sense of immortality. It’s how we make sure the marathon really continues.” — Justin Tinsley


    Connect with Justin:

    • Instagram/Twitter: @JustinTinsley
    • Written Work: Anscape
    • Podcast: King of Crenshaw (available wherever you get your podcasts)
    • Books: It Was All A Dream: Biggie and the World That Made Him


    Want More Higher Valleys?

    • Subscribe, rate, and review wherever you get your podcasts
    • Follow us on Instagram: @highervalleyspodcast
    • Have a question or a dad story? Leave us a voicemail at Speak Pipe

    Honor the peaks. Learn from the valleys. We’ll catch you on the next climb.

    Send us a text

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    1 時間 18 分

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