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What happens when the business you built can’t grow unless you step out of it?

In this episode of The Heart-Led Business Show, I sit down with Amber Briggle, founder of Soma Massage Therapy, to explore the turning point where “doing it all” stops working, and what it takes to rebuild a business that can actually sustain you.

From juggling clients, calls, payroll, and motherhood to stepping back from the treatment room entirely, Amber shares how necessity forced a new way of working. We dive into her no-tipping model, how she reverse-engineers pricing around real costs and fair wages, and why structure, not hustle, is what allowed her business to finally scale.

A grounded, honest look at building something that works with your life, not against it.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️How Amber “accidentally” became a massage therapist
✔️The power of intuition and empathy in hiring and healing
✔️Why she ditched tipping and what happened next
✔️Transitioning from practitioner to absentee business owner
✔️The secret sauce behind building a heart-led franchise model

📌About the Guest
Amber Briggle is the CEO of B-Well Enterprises, and the founder of Soma Massage Therapy, a multi-award-winning and fast-growing franchise brand. A massage therapist since 2004, she has built and rebuilt her business through resilience and a people-first approach, growing it into a thriving, million-dollar company.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: https://www.mysomamassage.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/amberbriggle | www.linkedin.com/company/mysomamassage
✔️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mysomamassage
✔️Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/somadento
✔️YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mysomamassage

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Up Next…
~Ryan Golec, a Reno-based strength coach, personal trainer, and licensed massage therapist with 25+ years in movement, rehab, and performance. He helps clients move better, reduce pain, and improve athletic performance

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What if your hair loss wasn’t just about hair but your stress, your health, and your story?

In today’s episode, I sit down with Mandy Wright, trichology expert and founder of Hair Oh Yeah in Bellevue, Washington.

We dive into the real causes of hair loss, the emotional journey behind it, and how cutting-edge tools like AI tracking and ultrasound technology are transforming hair regrowth.
Mandy also shares her personal journey from aesthetics to trichology and what it truly takes to build a heart-led business in a deeply vulnerable space.

🎧 Tune in for a powerful conversation on hair, healing, and hope.

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📌Key Takeaways

• ✔️The surprising link between COVID, stress, and hair loss
• ✔️Why trichology is more than just scalp science—it’s heart work
• ✔️The power of niche: why focusing on one service can be both a blessing and a business challenge
• ✔️Using AI and ultrasound to track hair growth
• ✔️The emotional toll of hair loss and how trust and empathy are the real magic ingredients

📌About the Guest
Mandy Wright is a certified trichologist and the founder of Hair Oh Yeah, a hair rejuvenation medical aesthetic clinic in Bellevue, Washington. She specializes in personalized, non-invasive solutions for hair loss and scalp conditions, using advanced technologies like Alma TED to restore hair health and confidence.

📌Additional Resources

• ✔️Website: https://www.hairohyeah.com
• ✔️LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandawright388
• ✔️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wowhairohyeah
• ✔️Email: mandy@hairohyeah.com

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✨Up Next: Amber Briggle, CEO of B-Well Enterprises and founder of Soma Massage Therapy, a multi-award-winning, million-dollar massage brand built on a people-first approach.

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In this episode of The Heart-Led Business Show, I’m joined by Bron Watson, a nurse educator turned entrepreneur and founder of The Social Coach and The Serenity Project. Bron shares her powerful journey of building a successful business, facing two cancer diagnoses, and ultimately redefining what it truly means to live and work in alignment.

We dive into what a heart-led business really looks like beyond the buzzword, how to recognize when something is off even when things look “successful” on the outside, and why systems, boundaries, and energy management matter more than hustle. Bron also opens up about her transition, the lessons she’s learned, and how she now builds a business that supports her life, not consumes it.

🎧 Wondering if your work aligns with who you are? This episode will resonate. 👉 Like, share, and subscribe to help others discover heart-led business.

📌Key Takeaways
✔️Why building a successful business can still feel wrong
✔️The moment Bron realized her business was literally killing her
✔️How cancer became the catalyst for creating a truly heart-led business
✔️The power of systems, boundaries, and saying “no”
✔️Using AI and video to build sustainable workflows that don’t rely on you
✔️Why healing and abundance, not hustle, are Bron’s business goals

📌About the Guest
Bron Watson is a nurse, educator, entrepreneur, and founder of The Social Coach and The Serenity Project. After facing breast cancer and an incurable blood cancer diagnosis, her work evolved to focus on whole-person healing. Today, she helps others reconnect, find clarity, and create calm through life’s challenges.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: https://www.bronwatson.com.au
✔️LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bronwatson
✔️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bron_watson
✔️Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bronwatsonme
✔️YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BronWatson
✔️Free Newsletter: The Check-In https://tinyurl.com/ycp5c4y9

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Up Next: Mandy Wright, a trichologist and owner of Hair Oh Yeah in Bellevue, specializing in hair loss and scalp health using advanced, non-invasive treatments.

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I’ve always believed the best businesses aren’t just built on profit. They’re built on people.

In this episode of The Heart-Led Business Show, I sit down with Nathanael “Tarzan” Rabbitt, founder of Conscious Body Recovery, to explore what it really looks like to lead with purpose, integrity, and heart.

Nathanael shares his journey from personal training to building a thriving recovery business centered on infrared sauna and cold plunge therapy, along with the lessons he learned about simplicity, boundaries, and scaling without losing your values. We also dive into how he balances compassion with structure, and why “people over profits” is more than just a mindset. It’s a daily practice.

If you’re building a service-based business or want to lead with more intention, this conversation will challenge how you think about growth, service, and success.

🎧 Listen now to learn how to build a business that lasts by putting people first.
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📌Key Takeaways
✔️The sneaky signs of burnout
✔️Why “hustle culture” is not your friend
✔️How to set boundaries without feeling like a jerk
✔️The myth of balance and what to aim for instead
✔️Creating a business that aligns with your values

📌About the Guest
Nathanael “Tarzan” Rabbitt is the CEO and Founder of Conscious Body Recovery, where he blends modern recovery science with nature-based principles to support resilience, clarity, and overall well-being. He focuses on contrast therapy, breathwork, and mindful living as practical tools for long-term self-mastery, sharing grounded, experience-based insights on sustainable health and performance.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.consciousbodyrecovery.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/nathanaelrabbitt
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/tarzan_vibez
www.instagram.com/conscious_body_recovery
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/nate.rabbitt
www.facebook.com/consciousbodyrecovery
✔️TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@conscious_body_recovery

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Up Next: Bron Watson, a nurse, educator, and founder of The Social Coach and The Serenity Project. She helps others navigate healing and growth through the “third space” where science meets soul.

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In this episode, I sit down with Brynne Tillman, CEO of Social Sales Link and author of The LinkedIn Sales Playbook, to explore what it really means to build a heart-led business in today’s world of selling.

Brynne has spent decades transforming traditional sales approaches into trust-based conversations, helping professionals move away from cold, transactional tactics toward meaningful, value-driven connections, especially through LinkedIn and AI.

We explore why outdated, pushy sales tactics no longer work and how her CHIRP framework (Challenge, History, Impact, Risk, Priority) creates authentic conversations that convert. Brynne also shares her journey from cold calling to building a referral-driven business through genuine connections.

🎧Tune in to discover how to lead with value, build trust faster, and create conversations that truly matter.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️Why “detach from the sale” is your new sales superpower
✔️The CHIRP method: the anti-BANT framework you didn’t know you needed
✔️How to earn the right to sell
✔️Turning LinkedIn into a referral-generating machine
✔️Balancing heart-led business with healthy profits—yes, it’s possible!

📌About the Guest
Brynne Tillman is the CEO of Social Sales Link and author of The LinkedIn Sales Playbook and co-author of The LinkedIn Edge and Prompt Writing Made Easy, helping professionals build trust-based conversations using LinkedIn and AI, without being salesy.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.brynnetillman.com
✔️Email: brynne.tillman@socialsaleslink.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/brynnetillman
✔️Books:
~The LinkedIn Sales Playbook, a Tactical Guide to Social Selling. https://tinyurl.com/yc45h8r7
~The LinkedIn Edge: New Sales Strategies for Unleashing the Power of LinkedIn https://tinyurl.com/29ndzb2d

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Up Next: Nathanael “Tarzan” Rabbitt, founder of Conscious Body Recovery, combines modern recovery science with nature-based practices to enhance resilience, clarity, and well-being, offering practical insights on breathwork, contrast therapy, and self-mastery.

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From Web Design to Warrior Fuel with Trevor Nolan Bower

Trevor Nolan Bower, founder of Centurion Labz, has built a supplement brand that stands for honesty, transparency, and purpose. From running retail stores to creating a community-driven business, his journey is full of lessons on persistence, preparation, and heart-led leadership.

In this episode, discover how Trevor balances business and integrity, empowers his team, supports local stores, and inspires customers to achieve their goals while redefining what it means to lead with heart.

💥 Tune in to hear a story of passion, purpose, and building something that truly makes a difference.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️How a hands-on approach and personal experience turned Centurion Labz into a trusted name in fitness
✔️Why preparation, purpose, and persistence matter more than flashy marketing or gimmicks
✔️The philosophy of building a brand that truly supports local stores and communities
✔️Lessons on balancing profit with heart-led leadership and empowering your team

📌About the Guest
Trevor Nolan Bower is the founder of Centurion Labz, building America’s most trusted pre-workout brand through transparency, customer feedback, and honest formulations. He helps people train with purpose and take ownership of their health, turning preparation into performance.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.centurionlabz.com
✔️Phone number: (717) 884-4254
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/centurion-labz
✔️TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@bowertrev | www.tiktok.com/@centurionlabz
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/bowertrev | www.instagram.com/centurion_labz
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/centurionlabzofficial
✔️Promo Link:  20% off on Centurion Labz products, use the code: Legion20
https://centurionlabz.com/discount/LEGION20

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Up Next: Brynne Tillman, CEO of Social Sales Link and co-author of The LinkedIn Edge and Prompt Writing Made Easy. She helps professionals start trust-based LinkedIn and AI conversations, without being salesy.

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School Bus to Seven Figures with Phil Risher
What if you could scale your business from $3M to $5M in just 24 months without losing your heart in the process?

Phil Risher, the genius behind Phlash Consulting, shares how he builds heart-led businesses that win, for clients, employees, and profits, while keeping purpose at the center. From performance pay to building systems that actually work, he shows how profit can fuel impact, not just numbers on a balance sheet.

If you’re ready to rethink growth, leadership, and money, this episode is your blueprint for a business that truly matters.

🎧Listen now, and don’t forget to 👍like, share, and subscribe so you never miss an episode of heart-led business insights!

📌Key Takeaways
✔️Win-Win-Win Philosophy
✔️Empowered Teams Drive Growth
✔️Shift from Hustler to Leader
✔️Systems Enable Scalable Growth
✔️Core Values in Action
✔️Profit as a Tool, Not a Goal
✔️Heart and Strategy Together

📌About the Guest
Phil Risher is the owner of Phlash Consulting, helping local service businesses grow sales and stay fully booked with data-driven marketing. With 15+ years in the service industry, he scaled a $3M business to $5M in 24 months before selling it to private equity. His work has been featured on Forbes, CNBC, Yahoo Finance, The Wall Street Journal, and Jobber’s Masters of Home Service.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.phlashconsulting.com
✔️Email: info@phlashconsulting.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/philrisher | www.linkedin.com/company/phlash-consulting
✔️YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCVSuWJ-9UlN2DELnWClctxw
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/phlashconsulting
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/phlashconsulting
✔️Free Playbook : 11 Proven Ways to Get More Customers
✔️Books Mentioned
~Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell: https://tinyurl.com/4ejjuz3s
~Profit First by Mike Michalowicz: https://tinyurl.com/576khdd9
~Thou Shall Prosper by Rabbi Daniel Lapin: https://tinyurl.com/ye2yz45s

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Up Next: Trevor Nolan Bower, founder of Centurion Labz, is redefining pre-workouts with honest formulations and real customer feedback. He inspires people to train with purpose and take full ownership of their health.

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If you think lawyers can’t be heart-led… this episode might just change your mind.
On The Heart-Led Business Show, I sit down with Jane Muir, a Miami business attorney who balances high-stakes litigation with compassion, candor, and courage. From a family legacy of lawyers to starting her firm during the subprime mortgage crisis, Jane proves you can win in court and lead with heart.

We talk about why “heart-led” and profit aren’t opposites, the surprising truth about litigation costs, her 3x revenue model, the power of radical candor, and how hiring and environment shape culture.

🎧 Listen to the full episode as Jane Muir shares how to lead with heart, win with integrity, and make smarter business decisions today.

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📌Key Takeaways
✔️Why “heart-led” and “profit” are not opposites, and how math actually protects your integrity
✔️The surprising truth about litigation costs (and why most lawsuits aren’t worth it)
✔️Jane’s simple 3x revenue model that keeps her firm ethical and thriving
✔️How radical candor builds stronger teams and smarter client decisions
✔️The unexpected way environment and hiring choices shape company culture

📌About the Guest
Jane Muir is a Miami-based business attorney and managing shareholder at J. Muir & Associates, P.A. Recognized as a “Super Lawyer” (2021–2025), she specializes in commercial litigation, business transactions, and general counsel services. Admitted in Florida and multiple federal courts, Jane holds an AV Preeminent rating for professional excellence. Bilingual and deeply committed to her community, she combines legal expertise with heart-led service for businesses and philanthropic causes.

📌Additional Resources
✔️Website: www.jmuirandassociates.com
✔️LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/janewmuir
✔️YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UC64fXtUUs6AXnxAsmJSEQsw
✔️Instagram: www.instagram.com/jmuirandassociates
✔️X: https://x.com/JMuirAssociates
✔️Facebook: www.facebook.com/JMuirandAssociates

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Up Next: Phil Risher, the owner of Phlash Consulting, helps home service businesses grow sales and stay booked. His work has been featured on Forbes, CNBC, Yahoo Finance, and The Wall Street Journal.

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