Host Chris Odell has a long and amusing conversation with BJJ Black Belt and somewhat reluctant BJJ instructional video star Chris Burns. They discuss Chris' history and current work in the realm of Jiu Jitsu, their shared passion for the original martial art, particularly as shown by Rickson Gracie, in contrast to the sport style. They also explore the teaching mindset, and dig into Chris' unique, sometimes controversial personality and presentation.

Chris Burns is a second degree black belt under Rickson Gracie and the founder of the Zero Point Gracie Jiu Jitsu Academy. He also works with The BJJ Project which produces a ton a of great content with his teachings.

Chris Burns' Instagram and Facebook

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

Chris sits down with James Driskill, a Rickson Gracie black belt currently serving as Rickson's full time uke and assistant instructor. James has applied the principals of learning to many areas of life including regenerative agriculture, cannabis farming and many more topics covered in the discussion.

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

Josh McKinney and Chris Odell have a fun talk about various topics revolving mostly around Josh's life journey from being a fat kid needing exercise to becoming a top level competitor, to founding his own gym.

Josh is also the host of a podcast that Datsusara proudly sponsors called "I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu". " where "each episode will help you suck just a little less at jiu-jitsu, or your money back"!

Josh McKinney's "I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu" Podcast and YouTube Channel

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).