Ahmer couldn't join us. He fell asleep with his daughters. The Finals are tied 2-2. We're not sure how the Thunder won Game 4, but we try our best. We also try to figure out what the Knicks are doing. (Please let us know if Leon Rose & World Wide Wes have contacted your employer to seek permission to speak with you.)

What happened at the big Toronto family event? Was it a mistake to start Wallace over Hartenstein? Shai was Kobe-esque in Game 1; Haliburton was Harden-esque in Game 2. (Spoiler: neither are compliments.) The Knicks fired Thibs! Ahmer rejoices! Kashif and Ahmer plan a meetup.

We have some fun. With a wide open East, should Giannis stay? KAT for KD? Are the Thunder on the verge of a dynasty? If so, how should the other Western powers react?

Will this be a competitive series? How good are Haliburton and Siakam? Can anyone stop Shai or J-Dub? We also review the Knicks and talk Thibs, Brunson, and KAT.

Did Indiana blow it? Did New York and Thibs learn anything? Was Minnesota's game 3 beatdown the most impressive of the playoffs? Should the Thunder be worried? Giannis trades and Kashif thinks Cooper Flagg is overhyped because he is a white American.

Pacers depth and shooting or Knicks top end talent and late game execution? Are the Thunder inevitable or is Randle the difference for Minnesota? What makes a season historic? Suffice it to say, there is disagreement.

Ahmer attended Celtics-Knicks Game 4 and we get instant reaction from Brooklyn. Unfortunately for Ahmer, we also discuss Indiana-Cleveland. More trade talk. What's wrong with Joker? And is Cooper overhyped because he's white?

Nico Harrison's plan worked! Should the Cavs blow things up? What if OKC can't get past Denver? Draft and Giannis trade ideas.