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John Kim, CEO, Reckoner Capital Management - https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-e-kim-97009421a/

Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

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Important Disclosure: The views and opinions expressed here reflects the judgments and opinions of the speaker(s), do not purport to be complete, and do not reflect the official position of any affiliated firm, employer, or organization. No obligation to update or otherwise revise such views and opinions is being assumed. The content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice. Statements regarding market or economic conditions, forecasts, and forward-looking expectations are inherently uncertain, and actual results may differ materially. This content does not constitute, and should not be construed as, an offer of advisory services, securities or other financial instruments, a solicitation of an offer to buy any security or other financial instrument, or a recommendation to buy, hold or sell a security or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. References to specific securities, issuers, indexes, and strategies are for illustrative purposes only, may or may not be currently held by the hosts and guests in a direct or indirect capacity, and are not intended to be, and should not be interpreted as, an indication that an investment has been or will be profitable. Listeners should conduct their own due diligence and consult with a qualified financial, legal, or tax professional before making any investment decision.

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00:00 - Welcome to The Credit Clubhouse: defining specialty finance today

04:23 - From marketplace to institutional: fintech lending's journey

12:37 - Beyond tech multiples: finding value in embedded lending

19:06 - Assessing consumer health and buy now, pay later's impact

27:15 - The win-win of embedded lending and concentration risks

31:30 - Navigating public vs. private ABS and banks' evolving role

36:32 - Capital inflows, market health, and LP Education

42:07 - Personal insights, predictions, and episode conclusion

Philip Bartow, Head of Specialty Finance & FinTech Lending, Sound Point Capital Management - https://www.linkedin.com/in/philip-bartow-99a51b1/

Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

This material does not constitute an offer to sell or a solicitation of an offer to buy any securities. It is being provided solely for informational and reference purposes only and is not intended to be, and must not be, the basis for any investment decision. Statements represent the subjective views of Sound Point as of the date of the recording and cannot be independently verified and are subject to change. All investing involves risks, including the risk of a total loss. Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results.

Important Disclosure: The views and opinions expressed here reflects the judgments and opinions of the speaker(s), do not purport to be complete, and do not reflect the official position of any affiliated firm, employer, or organization. No obligation to update or otherwise revise such views and opinions is being assumed. The content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice. Statements regarding market or economic conditions, forecasts, and forward-looking expectations are inherently uncertain, and actual results may differ materially. This content does not constitute, and should not be construed as, an offer of advisory services, securities or other financial instruments, a solicitation of an offer to buy any security or other financial instrument, or a recommendation to buy, hold or sell a security or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. References to specific securities, issuers, indexes, and strategies are for illustrative purposes only, may or may not be currently held by the hosts and guests in a direct or indirect capacity, and are not intended to be, and should not be interpreted as, an indication that an investment has been or will be profitable. Listeners should conduct their own due diligence and consult with a qualified financial, legal, or tax professional before making any investment decision.

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00:00 - Shaping investment philosophy through market shocks

05:18 - Corporate vs. consumer credit: transparency matters

09:08 - The hidden cost of illiquidity

12:02 - Private capital's new role in mortgage markets

15:52 - Navigating commercial mortgage market shocks and recovery

21:35 - Consumer credit's K-shaped recovery

25:16 - Securitization transforms private assets

33:41 - Data and AI in investment decisions

39:48 - AI's impact on consumer finance

43:32 - AI innovation in credit markets

46:38 - Navigating markets and personal insights: A wrap-up

Mark Tecotzky, Vice Chairman, Ellington Management Group - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-tecotzky-7bb00b134/

Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Important Disclosure: The views and opinions expressed here reflects the judgments and opinions of the speaker(s), do not purport to be complete, and do not reflect the official position of any affiliated firm, employer, or organization. No obligation to update or otherwise revise such views and opinions is being assumed. The content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice. Statements regarding market or economic conditions, forecasts, and forward-looking expectations are inherently uncertain, and actual results may differ materially. This content does not constitute, and should not be construed as, an offer of advisory services, securities or other financial instruments, a solicitation of an offer to buy any security or other financial instrument, or a recommendation to buy, hold or sell a security or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. References to specific securities, issuers, indexes, and strategies are for illustrative purposes only, may or may not be currently held by the hosts and guests in a direct or indirect capacity, and are not intended to be, and should not be interpreted as, an indication that an investment has been or will be profitable. Listeners should conduct their own due diligence and consult with a qualified financial, legal, or tax professional before making any investment decision.

This episode is presented by ⁠Cardo AI⁠, the operating system for asset-based finance. Curious to see the platform in action? Book a demo to learn more - https://cardoai.com/book-a-demo/

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00:00 - Welcome to the Credit Clubhouse

02:26 - The explosive growth of fund finance markets

04:26 - This episode is presented by CARDO AI

05:23 - Assessing the current optimistic mood in fund finance

07:12 - Addressing the fund finance talent pool shortage

10:55 - Expanding the talent pool

12:57 - Disruption and portability in the legal market

16:23 - How hiring standards have evolved in fund finance

19:19 - The need for developing new fund finance talent

22:00 - Strategies for attracting and retaining top talent

25:59 - Introducing 'Inside Fund Finance' trade journal

30:11 - Key skills for a long-term fund finance career

32:58 - Mentoring's critical role

36:28 - AI and leadership: future impact on hiring

39:07 - Getting to know our guests: fun questions

45:00 - Episode conclusion and how to connect with guests

Rory Smith, Founder, Brickfield Fund Finance Recruitment - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rory-smith-82476914/

James Strode, Senior Associate, Brickfield Fund Finance Recruitment - https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-strode-85b3a8118/

Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Important Disclosure: The views and opinions expressed here reflects the judgments and opinions of the speaker(s), do not purport to be complete, and do not reflect the official position of any affiliated firm, employer, or organization. No obligation to update or otherwise revise such views and opinions is being assumed. The content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice. Statements regarding market or economic conditions, forecasts, and forward-looking expectations are inherently uncertain, and actual results may differ materially. This content does not constitute, and should not be construed as, an offer of advisory services, securities or other financial instruments, a solicitation of an offer to buy any security or other financial instrument, or a recommendation to buy, hold or sell a security or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. References to specific securities, issuers, indexes, and strategies are for illustrative purposes only, may or may not be currently held by the hosts and guests in a direct or indirect capacity, and are not intended to be, and should not be interpreted as, an indication that an investment has been or will be profitable. Listeners should conduct their own due diligence and consult with a qualified financial, legal, or tax professional before making any investment decision.

This episode is presented by ⁠Cardo AI⁠, the operating system for asset-based finance. Curious to see the platform in action? Book a demo to learn more - https://cardoai.com/book-a-demo/

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00:00 - Welcome to the Credit Clubhouse

02:21 - Exploring the compelling opportunities in securitized credit

04:53 - Unpacking misconceptions and growth in digital infrastructure

08:01 - How structural protection shapes securitized credit investments

11:04 - Finding value in overcrowded and overlooked credit sectors

16:09 - Understanding the drivers and risks of data center investing

24:12 - Assessing leverage, liquidity, and structural vulnerabilities in credit

28:24 - The role of insurance capital and emerging credit markets

33:25 - A bold prediction for AI

Joe Allen, Deputy CIO & Head of Securitized Credit Strategies, Bright Meadow Capital - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-allen-cfa-6071445/

Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Important Disclosure: The views and opinions expressed here reflects the judgments and opinions of the speaker(s), do not purport to be complete, and do not reflect the official position of any affiliated firm, employer, or organization. No obligation to update or otherwise revise such views and opinions is being assumed. The content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice. Statements regarding market or economic conditions, forecasts, and forward-looking expectations are inherently uncertain, and actual results may differ materially. This content does not constitute, and should not be construed as, an offer of advisory services, securities or other financial instruments, a solicitation of an offer to buy any security or other financial instrument, or a recommendation to buy, hold or sell a security or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. References to specific securities, issuers, indexes, and strategies are for illustrative purposes only, may or may not be currently held by the hosts and guests in a direct or indirect capacity, and are not intended to be, and should not be interpreted as, an indication that an investment has been or will be profitable. Listeners should conduct their own due diligence and consult with a qualified financial, legal, or tax professional before making any investment decision.

This episode is presented by ⁠Cardo AI⁠, the operating system for asset-based finance. Curious to see the platform in action? Book a demo to learn more - https://cardoai.com/book-a-demo/

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00:00 - Welcome to the Credit Clubhouse and DealCatalyst updates

01:56 - Introducing Connor Fitzgerald from Wellington Management

02:20 - Defining characteristics of today's corporate credit environment

05:42 - Disconnects between pricing and corporate credit fundamentals

07:54 - Fed policy influence versus fiscal policy and fundamentals

11:04 - Fed policy scenarios challenging corporate credit investors

13:49 - Key drivers of bond yields and AI market distortion

18:35 - Is today's market accurately reflecting credit risk?

19:57 - Compelling opportunities outside the AI build-out

23:21 - AI infrastructure issuance and sector allocation changes

28:28 - Identifying the biggest risks in the AI build-out

33:11 - How AI issuers will evolve in IG portfolios

35:00 - Developments impacting corporate credit markets in 1-2 years

38:08 - Consensus market views investors are underestimating

39:43 - Personal insights and final thoughts on AI risks

42:00 - Thank you for listening to The Credit Clubhouse

Connor Fitzgerald, Fixed Income Portfolio Manager, Wellington Management - https://www.linkedin.com/in/connor-fitzgerald-789b0b166/

Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Important Disclosure: The views and opinions expressed here reflects the judgments and opinions of the speaker(s), do not purport to be complete, and do not reflect the official position of any affiliated firm, employer, or organization. No obligation to update or otherwise revise such views and opinions is being assumed. The content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice. Statements regarding market or economic conditions, forecasts, and forward-looking expectations are inherently uncertain, and actual results may differ materially. This content does not constitute, and should not be construed as, an offer of advisory services, securities or other financial instruments, a solicitation of an offer to buy any security or other financial instrument, or a recommendation to buy, hold or sell a security or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. References to specific securities, issuers, indexes, and strategies are for illustrative purposes only, may or may not be currently held by the hosts and guests in a direct or indirect capacity, and are not intended to be, and should not be interpreted as, an indication that an investment has been or will be profitable. Listeners should conduct their own due diligence and consult with a qualified financial, legal, or tax professional before making any investment decision.

This episode is presented by ⁠Cardo AI⁠, the operating system for asset-based finance. Curious to see the platform in action? Book a demo to learn more - https://cardoai.com/book-a-demo/

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00:00 - Diving into credit markets with KBRA DLD

01:56 - Unpacking private credit headlines with performance data

07:09 - Redefining private credit beyond distribution strategy

11:50 - The need for standardized data in private credit

15:01 - How lenders and sponsors stabilize direct lending

20:07 - Assessing default risks in software and other sectors

25:47 - Direct lending's underappreciated strengths and recovery

30:28 - How to address negative narratives in private credit

35:30 - Guests' hobbies, and industry predictions

Kelly Thompson, Managing Director, KBRA DLD - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-thompson-29179313/

Eric Rosenthal, Senior Director, KBRA DLD - https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-rosenthal-5866489/

Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

https://linktr.ee/thecreditclubhousepodcast

Important Disclosure: The views and opinions expressed here reflects the judgments and opinions of the speaker(s), do not purport to be complete, and do not reflect the official position of any affiliated firm, employer, or organization. No obligation to update or otherwise revise such views and opinions is being assumed. The content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or financial advice. Statements regarding market or economic conditions, forecasts, and forward-looking expectations are inherently uncertain, and actual results may differ materially. This content does not constitute, and should not be construed as, an offer of advisory services, securities or other financial instruments, a solicitation of an offer to buy any security or other financial instrument, or a recommendation to buy, hold or sell a security or other financial instruments in any jurisdiction. References to specific securities, issuers, indexes, and strategies are for illustrative purposes only, may or may not be currently held by the hosts and guests in a direct or indirect capacity, and are not intended to be, and should not be interpreted as, an indication that an investment has been or will be profitable. Listeners should conduct their own due diligence and consult with a qualified financial, legal, or tax professional before making any investment decision.

This episode is presented by ⁠Cardo AI⁠, the operating system for asset-based finance. Curious to see the platform in action? Book a demo to learn more - https://cardoai.com/book-a-demo/

DealCatalyst Homepage⁠ - https://www.dealcatalyst.io/

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Private Credit Club⁠ - https://www.dealcatalyst.io/private-credit-club

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00:00 - Welcome to The Credit Clubhouse

02:20 - Unpacking access, complexity, and work premiums

05:10 - How sponsor capital benefits the lower middle market

07:16 - Metropolitan's ethos: loan-to-asset value & niche finding

12:04 - Speed in non-sponsored deals

14:10 - Sourcing, empathy, and 'skin in the game' principles

17:32 - Unlocking value in fundamental, below-the-radar businesses

20:07 - Mitigating risk with asset protection and covenants

23:10 - AI's impact on private credit

27:04 - Proactive interventions and managing challenging situations

33:15 - Specialization, LP sophistication, and market misconceptions

37:34 - Paul Lisiak's hobbies, insights, and future predictions

40:16 - Thank You for listening to The Credit Clubhouse

Paul Lisiak, Managing Partner, Metropolitan Partners Group - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-lisiak-0611/

Todd Anderson, Head of Content & Programming, DealCatalyst - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddanderson19/

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