Dr. George Kapalka speaks with two central figures in the early development of psychopharmacology training for psychologists outside the military: Dr. Elaine LeVine and Dr. Stephen Berger. The conversation traces the origins and evolution of the Prescribing Psychologist Register (PPR), founded by Dr. Samuel Feldman, and examines how early certificate-based training programs laid the groundwork for today’s MSCP standard.

Dr. Berger recounts his path into RxP advocacy through professional politics in California, including the CAPP v. Rank case and APA task forces that helped shape early training guidelines. Dr. LeVine shares a detailed and personal account of how PPR training catalyzed her efforts to establish New Mexico’s first in-state psychopharmacology training program, ultimately supporting successful RxP legislation.

Together, the guests reflect on the tensions between certificate programs and degree-based training, the gradual standardization of APA guidelines from 120 to 450 hours, and the critical role of grassroots legislative advocacy. The episode highlights how early pioneers navigated uncertainty, institutional resistance, and political realities to advance RxP education—while emphasizing the importance of preserving psychologists’ professional identity as both therapists and prescribers.

Dr. George Kapalka and Dr. Glenn Ally continue their conversation on the evolution of prescriptive authority for psychologists in Louisiana, highlighting the challenges faced, the relationships built, and the legislative efforts that led to significant changes in the field. Dr. Ally shares personal anecdotes and insights on the importance of collaboration, the role of the APA, and the identity of medical psychologists. The discussion emphasizes the need for advocacy and the impact of training on professional identity, while also addressing concerns about the future of prescriptive authority and the responsibilities that come with it.

In this look at The Continuing Evolution and History of RxP, Alliant MSCP program director Dr. George Kapalka interviews Dr. Glenn Ally, a pioneer of the RxP movement in Louisiana. In Part 1 of their conversation, they discuss movement’s history, the political landscape surrounding the legislation, the importance of training programs, and the role of consumer advocacy groups like LaFACT. Dr. Ally further shares insights into the relationships built within the medical and legislative community that facilitated the passage of RxP legislation in Louisiana, culminating in the first prescriptions written by psychologists there in 2005.