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  • Ep 683: They're Not Spicy, They're Scared - Handling Fearful and Aggressive Shelter Cats, with Berlin Waters, Founder of The Spicy Cat Project
    2026/09/22

    "Cats aren't spicy. They're not mean. They're just scared."

    This episode is sponsored-in-part by Maddie's Fund, OcuTrap, and Jessica Dolce, Compassion Fatigue + Grief Educator.

    Berlin Waters grew up in a house full of cats, with a mom who handled TNR for the neighborhood, and she's been a cat lover ever since. That lifelong interest led her to a master's in shelter medicine, where her research focused on handling and socializing fearful and aggressive cats. The result is The Spicy Cat Project, a resource for shelters and caregivers who want a more humane, effective approach to cats with challenging behavior. Berlin is now a third-year vet student with her sights set on shelter medicine and access to care.

    In this conversation with host Stacy LeBaron, Berlin explains why the cats she works with in shelters are usually owner-surrendered, not feral. They came from homes and they're simply terrified. Rather than leaving hissing cats alone to "decompress" for days or weeks, she argues for early, guided intervention that shows them things are going to be okay. She walks through her slow, step-by-step approach to a cat in a kennel, why she gave up on tools like the fake hand on a stick, and how she uses feral boxes, carriers, and thick folded towels to keep both herself and the cat safe.

    Stacy and Berlin also dig into some bigger questions in cat welfare. Berlin shares why she thinks we've become over-reliant on gabapentin, which she sees as a useful adjunct but not a substitute for real socialization. Both question the value of behavioral evaluations at intake, comparing them to judging a cat's personality during a vet visit. They also touch on the possible role of pain and stress in aggressive behavior. Berlin's message to adopters and shelters is a cultural shift: a cat that hisses and growls is a scared cat, with a sweet one hiding underneath.[/one_second]

    [one_second]Press Play Now For:

    • Why most "aggressive" shelter cats are scared house cats, not ferals
    • The case for early intervention instead of leaving fearful cats alone
    • Berlin's step-by-step method for approaching a cat in a kennel
    • Why she stopped using handling tools and relies on towels, carriers, and feral boxes
    • How fearful cats tend to do once they're in foster or adoptive homes
    • Where gabapentin helps, and where over-reliance can fail cats
    • Why behavioral evaluations at intake may not tell you much
    • How pain and stress may factor into challenging behavior

    Resources & Links

    • The Spicy Cat Project
    • Handling Techniques
    • Feral Cats
    • Adoption Basics
    • The Spicy Cat Project on YouTube
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    28 分
  • Ep 682: Too Small Is Not a Diagnosis, with Jordyn Purpura Feline Director, Yolo County SPCA; Strategic Advisor, Orphan Kitten Club; Clinical Researcher, Vernau Laboratory at UC Davis
    2026/09/15

    "When we say age is not a disease, we also mean it for the youngest."

    This episode is sponsored-in-part by Maddie's Fund, OcuTrap, and Jessica Dolce, Compassion Fatigue + Grief Educator.

    Jordyn Purpura started out smuggling orphaned raccoons into his childhood bedroom. Twelve years of neonatal fostering later, he's in his final year of veterinary school, chasing a gap he kept running into from both sides of the exam table: almost nothing in veterinary education begins before eight weeks of age.

    As a foster parent, that gap sounded like a doctor saying there wasn't much anyone could do. As a shelter worker placing bottle babies, and sometimes being the one present for their euthanasia when no foster could be found, it looked like an entirely preventable loss.

    For a long time there was a defensible reason not to push harder on kitten medicine: it doesn't matter what a veterinarian is willing to diagnose or prescribe if there's nobody to take that kitten home and feed it every two hours. Jordyn's argument is that this excuse has quietly expired. Foster networks have grown, nurseries have opened, funding has followed. What hasn't caught up is the reflex — too small for blood work, too small for imaging, too small for a medication that was never labeled for a body this size.

    That reflex has a body count. Kittens remain the animals least likely to leave a shelter alive, not because their medicine is impossible but because almost no one was taught it. Jordyn is teaching it now, to veterinary technicians, to emergency teams, to his own cohort. And he'd like the rest of us to start asking for it out loud.[/one_second]

    [one_second]Press Play Now For:

    • Why veterinary education effectively starts at eight weeks, and what that costs kittens
    • The emotional weight shelter staff carry when there's no foster available
    • Bringing tube feeding and neonatal husbandry onto hospital nursing teams
    • What the UC Davis famciclovir research showed about recovery times
    • Congenital hypothyroidism as an overlooked cause of "failure to thrive"
    • Getting creative with diagnostics instead of calling a kitten too small for them
    • How fosters and rescues can push their veterinary partners toward more
    • Why generational openness matters more than age when shifting practice

    Resources & Links

    • Vernau Laboratory at UC Davis
    • UC Davis Feline Pediatrics on Instagram
    • Jordyn Purpura on Instagram — The Vet Med Couple
    • UC Davis Fracture Program for Rescue Animals
    • Orphan Kitten Project at UC Davis
    • Orphan Kitten Club
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    22 分
  • Ep 681: Making the Case for TNR Without County Buy-In, with Eve Salimbene, President of Street Cat Project of Polk County
    2026/09/08

    "Today's inside cat is tomorrow's outside cat."

    This episode is sponsored-in-part by Maddie's Fund, OcuTrap, and The Community Cat Clinic.

    Eve Salimbene spent her career in the legal field before moving into animal welfare 26 years ago — and by her own admission, she was a dog person until she landed in Polk County, Florida. There she found a county with groups working on dogs and essentially nothing for cats: a high shelter kill rate, no low-cost spay/neuter anywhere in the county, and a year-round breeding season with none of the winter respite she'd known up north. She posted a question online asking what was being done. The response pulled her in, and in 2020 a brand-new group of volunteers TNR'd 133 cats. Six years later the count is roughly 6,700 — and the 133 looks like the tip of the iceberg.

    The complication is that TNR isn't condoned in Polk County. The Board of County Commissioners and the sheriff who runs animal control don't believe it works, which puts Eve's team in a strange middle space: vocal enough that caregivers know they aren't alone, careful enough not to get shut down. Some of the people they've helped won't give testimonials for fear of retribution.

    Eve and Stacy dig into where the cats actually come from, why Eve believes proactive municipal investment beats two more decades of trap and kill, and what a real pilot project would need to look like. Three smaller municipalities have now approached her about running one — and she's pushing for a five-year window with honest baseline numbers.

    Press Play Now For:

    • Why running a law firm turns out to be decent preparation for animal advocacy
    • What it's like to lead a TNR organization in a county that officially opposes TNR
    • The 2020 cohort of colonies now reporting zero kittens, years later
    • Where Polk County's community cats actually originate — and why "transient population" is the honest answer
    • The tagline that reframes owned-cat spay/neuter as a community cat issue
    • Municipal spay/neuter funding on the move: New York City, DeKalb County, and a statewide Texas program
    • Eve's proposed funding mechanisms, including a one-cent sales tax and corporate donors in the Tampa–Orlando corridor
    • Stacy's pilot-project challenge: designate the worst zip code, hit the volume, and watch intake drop
    • Why three small municipalities may end up leading where the county won't

    Resources & Links

    • Street Cat Project of Polk County
    • Coalition for Animal Rights and Education in Polk County (CARE) on Facebook
    • Contact Eve directly: contact@streetcatproject.org
    • Community Cat Program Management Certificate — University of the Pacific, Benerd College (next session begins September 14)
    • Sustainable Solutions Grant Program — United Spay Alliance
    • Making the Case for TNR Certification Workshop - presented by Neighborhood Cats
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    28 分
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