Today the show asks the question: Does CRM need universities to train the next generation of archaeologists? While we’ve talked about the deficiencies in university training for archaeologists, a new movement among CRM companies and industry leaders is trying to figure out if the industry can bypass universities and just provide training all on its own. Even though this show is hosted by two professors, our responses to this idea might shock you.

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Let’s take a moment to enjoy our many failures! Today the hosts talk about major career failures, what it taught them, and where they ended up afterwards. If you think we have all been successful all of the time, you’d be wrong!

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While some i.e. the current administration in America, aim to be fossil fools and bury their head in the sand, to the coming transition away from fossil fuels, others are embracing the change. The crew discusses what the coming electrification of archaeology will look like and what to expect.

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This episode focuses on the Airlie House 2.0 movement and their efforts to improve the future of CRM archaeology. Expanding upon the first Airlie House Report, the current members of this ad hoc group of CRMers, professors, SHPO and THPO staff, and agency archaeologists is tackling complex issues like the shortage of CRM archaeologists, creative mitigation, tribal consultation, and community engagement. They are trying to all of this in the face of a changing regulatory landscape, sclerotic university anthropology departments, and the onslaught of AI integration. They are also asking: What would archaeological training look like without academia? This is an episode you’ll want to share with your colleagues.

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For decades, Monte Verde in southern Chile has been one of the most famous archaeological sites in the Americas. The site was widely accepted as 14,500 years old, making it one of the strongest pieces of evidence for human presence in the Americas before Clovis.

But what if that interpretation was wrong?

In this special episode, I sit down with Dr. Todd Surovell, professor of anthropology at the University of Wyoming, to discuss new research that re-examines Monte Verde using modern geoarchaeological methods. The results suggest that the famous site may actually be much younger than previously believed, dating to the Holocene rather than the Ice Age.

If true, this would mean that Monte Verde is not evidence for pre-Clovis humans in South America, and it could force archaeologists to reconsider one of the most influential discoveries in American archaeology.

We discuss:

• The history of the Monte Verde discovery
• Why it reshaped textbooks in the 1990s
• How new geological and dating analyses challenge the original interpretation
• What this means for Clovis-first vs. pre-Clovis models
• Why independent verification and skepticism are essential in science
• This episode explores how science evolves—and how even the most famous discoveries can be re-examined.

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The hosts consider the positives in the current state of CRM and academic archaeology. As anthropologists we are especially conscious of how society impacts our discipline and at times can trend towards the negative and get mired in the fear of what lays ahead. In this episode, we discuss how any challenge can be used for opportunity and how change and progress is best effectuated through a positive attitude.

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The hosts discuss the use of technology in archaeology and the importance of using it appropriately. While our discipline will never escape the shovel and trowel - would we ever want it to? - there are tremendous tools that have been added to our proverbial tool chest over the years. However, just because these tools exist does not mean they are always useful. Employment of technology should be thoughtfully included in work plans and archaeologists have a responsibility to understand technology’s role in our discipline to ensure it is used appropriately.

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The hosts discuss Jose Leonardo Santos’s article on negative public attitudes toward anthropology and the claim that the discipline is struggling, including department closures and doubts about career outcomes. They argue the article mostly compiles familiar viewpoints without enough outside perspectives or practical solutions, and debate whether anthropology and higher education are truly in crisis or whether some critiques rely on weak, clickbait-style data. Much of the conversation centers on academia’s disconnect from CRM work, saying graduates often lack practical skills, critical thinking, and the ability to take feedback, leaving CRM firms to train them from scratch. They compare community college “train-to-standard” education with selective four-year programs and emphasize professional self-improvement, then invite Santos to join the podcast for a Socratic-style discussion.

For rough transcripts of this episode go to https://www.archpodnet.com/crmarchpodcast/326

Bill White: Succinct Research

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