Larry Lepard, investor and author of The Big Print, joins Jordan to examine why gold is signalling monetary debasement and what that means for Bitcoin. He explains why gold often moves first, why Bitcoin typically follows, and why simple, clear education still matters.

The Big Print: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Big-Print-Happened-America-Sound/dp/B0DVTCVX8J

Recorded 10th November 2025

CONTACT JORDAN:

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X: https://x.com/LawrenceLepard

Website: https://ema2.com

00:00 - Introduction

00:50 - Welcome Back, Larry!

01:09 - The Journey of the Book

02:20 - Bitcoin’s Reach and Future

03:43 - Comparing Influential Books

07:12 - The Role of Audio Books

08:44 - Gold’s Significance in Today’s Economy

13:23 - Monetary Debasement and Its Implications

23:55 - The Federal Reserve’s Role and Future

38:32 - Political Reforms and Global Peace Initiatives

39:42 - Currency Reset and Sound Money

40:19 - The Role of Bitcoin in the Future Economy

44:21 - Decentralisation and Media Transformation

51:49 - Bitcoin’s Market Dynamics and Predictions

58:41 - The Power Law and Bitcoin’s Future

01:00:38 - Challenges and Optimism for Bitcoin Adoption

01:10:09 - Spreading the Word and Educating Others

01:11:04 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Anil Patel, Bitcoin educator, author of The Bitcoin Handbook and The Treasury of Michael Saylor, joins to discuss how clear visuals, mental models and “building in public” accelerate Bitcoin understanding and adoption. He shares lessons from early e-commerce and PayPal, why permissionless networks matter, and how to break into Bitcoin by documenting your learning.

📚The Treasury of Michael Saylor: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Treasury-Michael-Saylor-Corporations-Countries/dp/B0FQV38WDF

Recorded on 28th October, 2025.

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Website: https://thebitcoinhandbook.com/

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 - Coming Up

01:00 - Introduction to Anil Patel and His Journey

03:32 - The Evolution of Understanding Bitcoin

06:21 - The Role of Education in Bitcoin

08:41 - Key Concepts in Bitcoin and Economics

11:12 - The Bitcoin Handbook and Its Impact

14:09 - Exploring the Treasury of Michael Saylor

24:29 - The Evolution of Technology and Adoption Patterns

26:11 - Inspiration Behind the Book

28:56 - Insights from Researching Michael Saylor

32:44 - Misunderstandings About Bitcoin on Balance Sheets

36:25 - Asset Classes and Generational Shifts

38:34 - Future Moves for Bitcoin and Saylor

40:23 - Next Steps and Global Interest in Bitcoin

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The Treasury of Michael Saylor

#Bitcoin #BitcoinTreasury #BTC

Scott Ellam, founder of XCE & Spencer Riley, is preparing to take his international executive recruitment firm public, with a Bitcoin treasury. He explains why he started stacking BTC as the company’s primary reserve in 2021, how he scaled buying from daily to weekly, and why the UK needs more businesses openly running Bitcoin strategies.

WRAP offer open across AJ Bell, Hargreaves Lansdown and Interactive Investor: https://x.com/XCEofficial/status/1994093795177029705?s=20

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CONTACT SCOTT:

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💼 LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/scott-p-ellam-5a097449

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 - Podcast Introduction and Guest Welcome

01:59 - Bitcoin on the Balance Sheet: A Natural Evolution

05:49 - Understanding the Core Business: Spencer Riley

06:07 - The Recruitment Industry and Business Model

16:52 - The Origin Story of Spencer Riley

22:49 - Discovering Bitcoin: A Personal Journey

31:12 - Challenges of Holding Cash Reserves

32:16 - Transition to Bitcoin Strategy

33:13 - Implementing the Bitcoin Balance Sheet

35:20 - Daily and Weekly Bitcoin Purchases

37:15 - Educating the Team on Bitcoin

40:07 - Preparing for IPO and Team Motivation

45:11 - Bitcoin Strategy and Recruitment

51:21 - Future of Bitcoin in Business

60:57 - Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans

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