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The Backstage Pastors Podcast

The Backstage Pastors Podcast

著者： Phil Taylor and Tyler Drewitz
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The Backstage Pastors Podcast is dedicated to the unique challenges and opportunities facing executive pastors and second-chair leaders in churches and nonprofits. Hosts Phil Taylor and Tyler Drewitz share hard-earned insights and introduce listeners to diverse leaders doing meaningful work behind the scenes. Together, they offer practical, actionable conversations designed to strengthen the ministries and people they quietly support.Phil Taylor and Tyler Drewitz キリスト教 スピリチュアリティ 聖職・福音主義
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  • From Executive Pastor to The Gospel Coalition with Zach Cochran

    From Executive Pastor to The Gospel Coalition with Zach Cochran
    2026/09/02

    Zach Cochran, Vice President of Operations at The Gospel Coalition, joins Phil and Tyler to discuss his transition from executive pastor to nonprofit second-chair leadership, the importance of operational leaders in the church, and TGC’s work helping Christians navigate artificial intelligence. He also shares practical wisdom for XPs considering a ministry transition and explains why healthy church leadership often requires patience with the slow, relational nature of ministry.


    Mentioned Resources

    • 🗣️Follow The Gospel Coalition

    • 💻 The Gospel Coalition Articles

    • 💻 TGC AI Policy

    • 🎙️Silicon Spiritualities — TGC podcast exploring AI, its formative effects, and questions about wise Christian engagement with artificial intelligence.


    From Our Partners

    💻 ⁠The Church Hub⁠: The Church Hub serves pastors, ministry leaders, and their spouses through equipping and training resources. Learn more at https://thechurchhub.org


    Connect with Phil Taylor

    ✉️ ⁠Get Phil's Newsletter⁠

    ✉️ ⁠⁠phil@backstagepastors.org⁠⁠

    🗣️ ⁠⁠@philtaylorxp⁠⁠

    📚 ⁠Books by Phil⁠

    💻 ⁠backstagepastors.org⁠

    💻⁠plainjoestudios.com⁠


    Connect with Tyler Drewitz

    ✉️ ⁠⁠tyler@myxp.church⁠⁠

    🗣️ ⁠⁠@tylerdrewitz⁠⁠

    💻 ⁠myxp.church⁠

    💻⁠ridgelineprinting.com⁠


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    CHAPTERS

    02:00 Zach’s Journey from College Athletics to Ministry Operations

    05:12 Sojourn, Multi-site Ministry, and the Executive Pastor Role

    06:52 Moving from Executive Pastor to TGC

    12:15 Inside The Gospel Coalition’s Ministry and Resources

    15:00 AI, Theology, and the Church

    21:28 What XPs Should Know Before Changing Roles

    27:00 Unifying the Church and Equipping Pastors

    30:12 Resources for Executive Pastors and Second-Chair Leaders

    32:24 AI, “Slop Scanning,” and Closing Thoughts


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    Editing and Support by The Good Podcast Co.

    Backstage Pastors™️ is a Registered Trademark
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    39 分
  • What Warren Bird’s Latest Research Reveals About Large & Multi-Site Churches

    What Warren Bird’s Latest Research Reveals About Large & Multi-Site Churches
    2026/08/19
    Dr. Warren Bird joins Phil Taylor and Tyler Drebits to discuss decades of research into the trends shaping churches in America. Warren shares his journey from pastor and church planter to researcher and author, including the unexpected opportunities that led to a writing career spanning 35 books.The conversation focuses on Warren’s latest research into multisite churches and large churches. He shares findings about the continued growth of multisite, the increasing importance of small groups, post-pandemic attendance and spiritual vitality, and the challenges churches face around campus leadership, video teaching, succession, and organizational structure.Warren also takes listeners behind the scenes of large-scale church research, explaining how his team identifies churches, builds reliable databases, gathers responses, and works to communicate findings responsibly.Finally, Warren discusses his newest book, Becoming a Future-Ready Church, and the need for churches to prepare for future generations by adapting their methods without changing the gospel. He also shares areas he hopes to research next, including multisite leadership, family succession, and ministry residencies.Mentioned Resources🗣️Follow Dr. Bird💻 Dr. Warren Bird’s Website💻 Latest Research on Multi-Site Churches 💻 ECFA.org📕Dr. Bird’s Latest Book - Becoming a Future-Ready ChurchFrom Our Partners💻 ⁠The Church Hub⁠: The Church Hub serves pastors, ministry leaders, and their spouses through equipping and training resources. Learn more at https://thechurchhub.org Connect with Phil Taylor✉️ ⁠Get Phil's Newsletter⁠✉️ ⁠⁠phil@backstagepastors.org⁠⁠🗣️ ⁠⁠@philtaylorxp⁠⁠ 📚 ⁠Books by Phil⁠💻 ⁠backstagepastors.org⁠💻⁠plainjoestudios.com⁠ Connect with Tyler Drewitz✉️ ⁠⁠tyler@myxp.church⁠⁠🗣️ ⁠⁠@tylerdrewitz⁠⁠💻 ⁠myxp.church⁠💻⁠ridgelineprinting.com⁠The best way to support this podcast is to like, subscribe and share it with a friend.LIKE & SUBSCRIBE📹 ⁠Youtube⁠🍏 ⁠Apple⁠🎤 ⁠SpotifyCHAPTERS02:59 Warren’s Journey from Pastor to Researcher05:42 The Latest Multisite Church Research08:20 The Resurgence of Large Churches12:49 Churches Get Bigger by Getting Smaller17:00 Are Churches Moving Away from Multisite?20:15 Live Teaching, Video Teaching, and Campus Leadership26:15 Succession and the Future of Multisite Churches32:43 Behind the Scenes of Church Research41:04 Becoming a Future-Ready Church and What Warren Is Studying Next– –Editing and Support by The Good Podcast Co. Backstage Pastors™️ is a Registered Trademark
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  • Micro-church movements with Lucas Pulley

    Micro-church movements with Lucas Pulley
    2026/08/05

    Most executive pastors spend their careers helping churches grow by building systems, hiring staff, and delegating responsibilities. But what happens when the goal isn't building a larger Sunday gathering at all?

    In this episode, Phil sits down with Lucas Pulley of the Underground Network to explore one of America's largest microchurch movements. Lucas shares his own ministry journey—from campus ministry in Illinois to leading decentralized networks of mission-focused microchurches—and explains how the Underground has developed systems that support hundreds of autonomous missionary leaders while preserving contextual freedom.

    The conversation explores what defines a church, why mission is essential alongside worship and community, how decentralized networks stay healthy without becoming overly institutionalized, and what executive pastors in traditional church settings can learn from movement thinking.

    Whether your church is 100 people or 10,000, this conversation offers valuable insights into leadership, delegation, coaching, governance, and creating structures that empower people for mission rather than simply managing programs.

    Mentioned Resources

    • 🗣️Follow Drew

    • 🗣️Follow the Underground Network

    • 💻Tampa Underground

    • 💻 Underground Network

    • 📕On the Verge By Alan Hirsch & Dave Ferguson

    From Our Partners

    💻 ⁠The Church Hub⁠: The Church Hub serves pastors, ministry leaders, and their spouses through equipping and training resources. Learn more at https://thechurchhub.org

    Connect with Phil Taylor

    ✉️ ⁠Get Phil's Newsletter⁠

    ✉️ ⁠⁠phil@backstagepastors.org⁠⁠

    🗣️ ⁠⁠@philtaylorxp⁠⁠

    📚 ⁠Books by Phil⁠

    💻 ⁠backstagepastors.org⁠

    💻⁠plainjoestudios.com⁠

    Connect with Tyler Drewitz

    ✉️ ⁠⁠tyler@myxp.church⁠⁠

    🗣️ ⁠⁠@tylerdrewitz⁠⁠

    💻 ⁠myxp.church⁠

    💻⁠ridgelineprinting.com⁠

    The best way to support this podcast is to like, subscribe and share it with a friend.

    LIKE & SUBSCRIBE

    📹 ⁠Youtube⁠

    🍏 ⁠Apple⁠

    🎤 ⁠Spotify


    CHAPTERS

    02:34 Lucas Pulley's ministry journey

    10:48 What is the Underground Network?

    16:16 Defining the microchurch model

    20:20 Mission-specific vs. distributive microchurches

    29:03 Building systems for decentralized leadership

    37:32 Supporting networks across the country

    41:35 Challenges of leading a decentralized movement

    48:07 The place of microchurches within the broader Church

    50:55 Final reflections and ministry resources

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    Editing and Support by The Good Podcast Co.

    Backstage Pastors™️ is a Registered Trademark
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    58 分
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