The countdown to July has begun. And with it, the anticipation for the 98th running of the Mount Marathon Race—an explosive, lung‑searing, tradition‑soaked battle up and down the cliffs of Seward, Alaska. Every Fourth of July, this tiny coastal town swells from 3,000 locals to nearly 30,000 spectators, all drawn by a race many call the toughest 5K on Earth.

Which means it’s time for another episode of the TURD Podcast (Trail Ultrarunning Race Directors Podcast).

🎙️ Season 2, Episode 7

This month, host Shalini Bhajjan, Founder and Race Director of Terrain Trail Runners–STL, sits down with Matias Saari, the man at the helm of Mount Marathon. A former elite mountain runner turned race director, Matias carries the weight of a century‑old legacy—guiding a race that has shaped Alaskan identity and tested generations of athletes.

We dive into his journey from journalism to race leadership, his stewardship of both Mount Marathon and the Equinox Marathon, and what it means to protect a race that’s as wild, unpredictable, and fiercely beloved as the mountains themselves.

June in the ultrarunning world is all about the “Big Dance” — the Western States 100. With the 53rd annual WS100 about a month away, it’s time for your monthly dose of the TURD Podcast (Trail Ultrarunning Race Directors Podcast).

🎙️ Season 2, Episode 6

This month, host Shalini Bhajjan, Founder and Race Director of Terrain Trail Runners–STL, sits down with one of the most iconic race directors in the sport: Craig Thornley, Race Director of the legendary Western States 100.

In this episode, we explore Craig’s path into trail and ultrarunning, his evolution as a race director, and what it means to help steward one of the most prestigious 100‑mile events in the world. We dive into his race‑directing career—from Waldo 100K to becoming the front man guiding Western States—and discuss his legacy, his ongoing trail‑work efforts, and the groundwork he has laid to support the sport and its community for years to come.

A thoughtful, insightful conversation with a driving force behind some of the sport’s most iconic events — and an ideal companion as June’s peak racing season kicks into gear.

May is coming in hot — which means it’s time for your monthly dose of the TURD Podcast (Trail Ultrarunning Race Directors Podcast).

🎙️ Season 2, Episode 5

This month, host Shalini Bhajjan, Founder and Race Director of Terrain Trail Runners–STL, sits down with Noah Dougherty, Director of Events for Aravaipa Running and the Race Director of the Mogollon Monster 100 — a notoriously tough 100‑mile race in the high country of Pine, Arizona, known for steep climbs, rocky technical terrain, and big views along the Mogollon Rim.

In this episode, we explore Noah’s path into trail and ultrarunning, his evolution as a race director, and what it means to help steward some of the most beloved events in the Aravaipa ecosystem. From the Mogollon Monster to the broader Aravaipa portfolio, Noah shares insights on intentional race design, community‑driven event culture, and the behind‑the‑scenes work that keeps these iconic races thriving.

A thoughtful conversation with a driving force behind some of the sport’s most iconic events — and the perfect companion as May’s racing season ramps up.