Gunnar and Rebecca explore how to apply the Proclamation in families that include LGBTQ members or others who feel they don't fit traditional patterns. They discuss Elder Cook’s teachings on compassion and inclusion, as well as modern Church resources that urge love, listening, and understanding. Their conversation highlights how families can remain united even when navigating difficult terrain. They describe real experiences of growth that came from listening rather than lecturing. Throughout the episode, they affirm that every person is a beloved child of Heavenly Parents. The message is bold yet deeply compassionate.

This episode explores the turbulent history behind Official Declarations 1 and 2, emphasizing the human and spiritual struggles that surrounded both decisions. Gunnar and Rebecca outline the legal pressure, family separation, and emotional trauma experienced during the end of plural marriage, showing how deeply the Saints wrestled with obedience when the cost felt overwhelming. They then shift to the priesthood restriction, examining its murky origins, the cultural assumptions of the 19th century, and the long process leading to the 1978 revelation. The conversation highlights the difficulty of sustaining prophetic leadership during periods of doctrinal transition. Gunnar and Rebecca also consider what Article of Faith 9 demands of a people who claim to believe in ongoing revelation. Listeners are invited to examine how divine guidance often unfolds slowly, painfully, and purposefully – and that ultimately, God’s pattern of revealing truth is deeply tied to human readiness.

This episode explores D&C 137–138 through the lens of judgment, desire, and the remarkable consistency of God’s love. Gunnar and Rebecca dive deep into Joseph Smith’s vision of the celestial kingdom and Joseph F. Smith’s expansive revelation of the spirit world. They discuss why God judges both works and desires, and what that means for discipleship today. Powerful scriptural connections—Moroni 7, Alma 34, Romans 8—illuminate how intent shapes eternity. They also confront difficult questions about infant mortality, grief, and hope as they wrestle honestly with suffering, hope, and the Lord’s promise that “all things work together for good.” A rich blend of doctrine, narrative, and spiritual insight. Listeners walk away with a clearer view of God’s mercy and a deeper appreciation for what “line upon line” truly means.

From conspiracies in the Hamilton House to the political stakes of the 1844 election, this episode connects the dots in ways most Latter-day Saints never hear. Gunnar and Rebecca walk through the overlapping pressures leading to the martyrdom and examine the lone eyewitness account of the “light” at the well. They also wrestle with the moral implications of political hatred, the temptation to demonize our opponents, and the prophetic principle that God meets His people where they are. Ultimately, the episode calls us to higher discipleship and clearer thinking in a world still fueled by outrage.

As mentioned in this episode:

1. The link to Rebecca's "Anger" song:

https://youtu.be/Yn7ZMhgDf7Q?si=L163AgwFKOHwFXhU

2. The link to Chad M. Orton's article "This Shall Be Our Covenant": https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/revelations-in-context/this-shall-be-our-covenant?lang=eng

3. The link to William Daniels' account of the martyrdom:https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/a-correct-account-of-the-murder-of-generals-joseph-and-hyrum-smith-1845/1

In this episode, Gunnar and Rebecca dive into D&C 133–134 with both urgency and hope, asking what it really means to prepare to meet Christ. Exploring fear, faith, accountability, and the difference between knowing about the Savior and actually knowing Him, they draw on personal stories, early Church history, and modern prophetic counsel to reframe the Second Coming as a deeply redemptive event, not something meant to terrify believers. The discussion then turns to religious liberty, political tension, and the still-radical vision in D&C 134 of a world where every person is free to worship—or not—according to their own conscience. In a time of cultural anxiety, they make a bold case for courage, compassion, and pluralism. This is an episode that invites listeners to think bigger, stand taller, and step into discipleship with clarity and conviction.

Joseph Smith’s final years saw a torrent of revolutionary doctrine—resurrected angels, eternal marriage, exaltation, and the plurality of Gods. Gunnar and Rebecca trace the breathtaking sequence of those revelations and ask what they teach us about divine progression today. If God is still revealing truth, what might He reveal next—and are we ready to receive it?

When silver is purified, the refiner knows it’s ready when he can see his face in it. That image — the craftsman gazing into molten silver — is one of the most tender metaphors in scripture. In this conversation, Gunnar and Rebecca explore what it means for God to “see Himself” in His Saints. Through the Refiner’s fire, they look at how purification works — not all at once, but through countless, patient refinings. They connect the process of sanctification to temple worship, repentance, and the slow miracle of becoming new until “the sons of Levi shall offer again an offering unto the Lord in righteousness”.

Does the Lord see His reflection in you?

What if your hardest moments aren’t about God testing you—but about you discovering something about yourself? Drawing from President Hugh B. Brown’s piercing reminder that “Abraham needed to learn something about Abraham,” Gunnar and Rebecca trace that principle through D&C 124, Liberty Jail, and the building of Nauvoo. Together they wrestle with what divine testing really means, and how the Lord uses weakness to strengthen, prepare and awaken us to what He already knows about us but which we may have yet to discover for ourselves.