Gunnar and Rebecca explore how to apply the Proclamation in families that include LGBTQ members or others who feel they don't fit traditional patterns. They discuss Elder Cook’s teachings on compassion and inclusion, as well as modern Church resources that urge love, listening, and understanding. Their conversation highlights how families can remain united even when navigating difficult terrain. They describe real experiences of growth that came from listening rather than lecturing. Throughout the episode, they affirm that every person is a beloved child of Heavenly Parents. The message is bold yet deeply compassionate.

This episode explores the turbulent history behind Official Declarations 1 and 2, emphasizing the human and spiritual struggles that surrounded both decisions. Gunnar and Rebecca outline the legal pressure, family separation, and emotional trauma experienced during the end of plural marriage, showing how deeply the Saints wrestled with obedience when the cost felt overwhelming. They then shift to the priesthood restriction, examining its murky origins, the cultural assumptions of the 19th century, and the long process leading to the 1978 revelation. The conversation highlights the difficulty of sustaining prophetic leadership during periods of doctrinal transition. Gunnar and Rebecca also consider what Article of Faith 9 demands of a people who claim to believe in ongoing revelation. Listeners are invited to examine how divine guidance often unfolds slowly, painfully, and purposefully – and that ultimately, God’s pattern of revealing truth is deeply tied to human readiness.

This episode explores D&C 137–138 through the lens of judgment, desire, and the remarkable consistency of God’s love. Gunnar and Rebecca dive deep into Joseph Smith’s vision of the celestial kingdom and Joseph F. Smith’s expansive revelation of the spirit world. They discuss why God judges both works and desires, and what that means for discipleship today. Powerful scriptural connections—Moroni 7, Alma 34, Romans 8—illuminate how intent shapes eternity. They also confront difficult questions about infant mortality, grief, and hope as they wrestle honestly with suffering, hope, and the Lord’s promise that “all things work together for good.” A rich blend of doctrine, narrative, and spiritual insight. Listeners walk away with a clearer view of God’s mercy and a deeper appreciation for what “line upon line” truly means.