This discussion ranges from ancient Christians in Rome to pioneers in Missouri, drawing parallels between disciples across centuries who were “proved” through suffering. Gunnar and Rebecca share insights on agency, commandments as invitations to happiness, and the promise that the Lord will guide us “in the very moment” when we act in faith. They explore how trials cultivate deep spiritual roots and how joy in Christ is full—even in the face of death. The episode closes with the reminder that every trial is an opportunity to choose discipleship and discover “news from heaven.”

Chastening may feel painful, but in this episode, Gunnar and Rebecca unpack how the Lord’s rebuke is evidence of His love. With insights from D&C 94–97, Hebrews, Ether, and Joseph Smith’s own experiences, they show how correction brings growth—and how building Zion requires trust, humility, and courage.

Doctrine and Covenants 93 is one of the most revolutionary revelations of the Restoration, teaching truths about God, Christ, and humankind that defy centuries of traditional Christian thought. In this episode, Rebecca and Gunnar explore how the section redefines our understanding of the premortal life, divine progression, and the promise that we too may receive “grace for grace” until we reach the fullness of God. They reflect on the experiences of the early Saints, including accounts from the School of the Prophets where Joseph Smith and others testified of seeing divine personages. They also share modern applications—how recognizing light and truth as the essence of our souls can change how we view others and ourselves. Finally, they discuss the Lord’s call for leaders and families to set their homes in order, reminding us that the work of building Zion begins in our own households.