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“Just Leave? Yeah… It’s Not That Simple.”

In this final episode of Season 12, our guest Liz Ortenburger joins us from Las Vegas to share all she knows! Liz has spent years working in the fight against domestic violence—and she’s not afraid to question the system we’ve built around it.

Former CEO of the Girl Scouts of Nevada and now CEO of Safe Nest, Liz joins Sirens, Slammers and Service for a conversation that gets uncomfortable fast.

We dig into what happens when the criminal justice system becomes the default answer, why survivors can’t simply “just leave,” the hidden power of economic abuse, coercive control, digital surveillance, and why true prevention may need to start long before someone ever calls 911.

And for first responders? There’s a hard truth about the emotional toll of responding to the same calls over and over—and what you can actually do when you feel like you can’t fix the situation.

This conversation challenges assumptions, calls out gaps, and gets real about what needs to change.

Because if what we’ve been doing isn’t working… maybe it’s time to ask some uncomfortable questions.

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Twenty years in the U.S. Army Military Police. Deployments. Command. Emergency services. Then suddenly… retirement.

So what happens when the uniform comes off and you have to figure out who you are—and what the hell comes next?

Retired U.S. Army Military Police officer Julie Austin joins Sirens, Slammers and Service for a raw conversation about life after service, women in the military, proving yourself in male-dominated spaces, and the unexpected reality of jumping from military leadership into entrepreneurship.

We talk about finding your next mission, building businesses, supporting veteran-owned brands, the unglamorous grind behind entrepreneurship, and why giving yourself some damn grace might be one of the hardest—and most important—parts of the transition.

Plus, we get into the question every veteran and first responder eventually has to face:

Who are you when the job that defined you is no longer your job?

And somehow, we even find time for beef jerky, football and barbecue.

Season 12 is almost DONE! Don’t miss this one—and if you’ve been riding with us this season, keep listening, keep sharing, and help us finish Season 12 loud!

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What happens when surviving isn’t enough?

Chelsea Brown knows what it means to fight your way out of hell.

Her story includes addiction, incarceration, homelessness, an abusive relationship, systemic failures—and a whole lot of reasons to stay quiet.

She didn’t.

Chelsea turned her trauma into Warriors Way Forward, a movement fighting for survivors while challenging the systems that are supposed to protect them.

In this episode, we go deep into the reality of domestic violence, coercive control, technology being weaponized against victims, the gaps survivors face when they reach out for help—and why first responders need to understand what’s happening before they ever arrive at the door.

This conversation gets uncomfortable.
It gets real.
And it gets VERY personal.

We talk survival. We talk accountability. We talk what needs to change—and why Chelsea isn’t interested in waiting for someone else to fix it.

This isn’t a story about being rescued. It’s a story about becoming the warrior.

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Blue Line Fitness Testing is a premier law enforcement fitness testing and training center based in Edmonton. Specializing in helping individuals prepare for the physical demands of a career in law enforcement, we offer comprehensive fitness evaluations, specialized training programs, and classes tailored to meet the unique needs of our clients.

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