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💔 In this powerful episode, hosts Mark and Stacey sit down with Sally Raymond, author of "The Son I Knew Too Late." After losing her brilliant son Jon at age 23, Sally transformed her grief into a mission to help parents recognize warning signs they might miss.

Now at 82, this psychotherapist shares crucial insights on how schools and parents can better support children's emotional development, the dangers of hyper-competitive environments, and why grades should never define a child's worth.

Sally offers both heartbreaking wisdom and practical strategies that could save lives. Her story reminds us that social-emotional skills are just as important as academic achievement, and that through our darkest experiences, we can become a force for good.

👩🏻‍💻 Sally's Website: https://sallyaraymond.com/
📕 Sally's Book, 'The Son I Knew Too Late': https://sallyaraymond.com/book/

👉🏼 Chapters:
00:02 - Hosts Discuss the Emotional Impact of the Episode
03:52 - Sally Shares About John's Early Childhood Challenges
05:32 - John's Remarkable Academic Achievements
06:31 - The Hidden Trauma That Shaped John's Life
13:23 - The Moment That Changed Everything
15:42 - The Phone Call That Wasn't Made
16:20 - The Shocking Revelation From John's Brother
19:47 - The Importance of Recognizing Cries for Help
21:22 - What Schools and Parents Are Missing
24:59 - The Problem With Competitive Educational Environments
26:00 - Advice for Parents: Focus on Effort, Not Grades
27:38 - Message for Parents Dealing With Grief
28:31 - Sally's Mission at 82 Years Old

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Stacey: https://www.instagram.com/staceymgrant/
Mark: https://www.instagram.com/mark_lubragge_onair/

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