About our Guests

Nathan Havey is the co-founder of Stakeholder Business and the Thrive Consulting Group. He is also the writer and filmmaker of Beyond Zero, a film that helps business leaders visualize a business beyond profits and help solve humanity’s most pressing problems. You can connect with Nathan on LinkedIn and Twitter.

Dr. Rhoda Deon is a spiritual life coach, musician, and learning consultant with a Ph.D. in educational mathematics. She is passionate about creating solutions that maximize efficiency and minimizes frustration. She is currently a freelancer and has worked on curriculum development and supporting small businesses. You can connect with her on LinkedIn and by email at rhoda@rhodadeon.com.  

Scott Peeples co-founded Citizen's Farmer, Kindred Lane, Peerfit, and the Contribution Community. He is passionate about supporting healthy growth among emerging social entrepreneurs. Connect with Scott on LinkedIn and Twitter.  Resources

• 10 Things You Should Know About Stakeholder Capitalism 
• Beyond Zero 
• Kiss the Ground 
• Stakeholder Business

Episode Highlights

Changing How We Think

• Changing the world for good doesn’t have to be rooted in a scarcity mindset. 

• For example, regenerative farming's principles of reducing pesticides and herbicides cultivate the soil and improve the local ecosystem. 

• Changing businesses isn't just about the system; it's also about the people.

• In the episode, Rhoda shares how she uses a card game to engage people about stakeholder management and capitalism without the discomfort of political discussion.

  What To Do Today

• You can take a self-assessment of your stakeholder score on the website. 
• Remember that things are moving. The movement needs more people and businesses to support change. 
• The most important is starting. Don’t think about making big changes immediately. 

[28:59] Rhoda: “You don't have to make big changes in order to see big results…when we think about conscious business, conscious capitalism, stakeholder theory, stakeholder business, it can seem overwhelming and daunting to get started. But what's most important is getting started, because every small step that we take is incremental change towards [something] larger.”

Nancy Wilson is an accountant and the Founder and CEO of the Canadian Women's Chamber of Commerce. She is also a Chartered Professional Accountant with experience in various corporate accounting roles. Nancy also started her own accounting and advisory firm, where she worked closely with women business owners and entrepreneurs.

As an accountant and business owner, Nancy experienced the barriers and challenges women face in business. She founded the Chamber in 2018 to create a powerful network of women advocating for change and equality in Canada. 

Found out more about Nancy and her advocacy work with the Canadian Women’s Chamber of Commerce on their website. Add your voice of support when you join their community. Resources

• Visit the Canadian Women’s Chamber of Commerce and become one of their members advocating for women business owners and entrepreneurs.

Knix, a business founded by Joanna Griffiths Better for the Businesswoman is Better for Everyone

• Data shows that women-owned and led businesses are good investments. Their growth, directly and indirectly, contributes to economic growth.

• Many women-owned businesses contract work out to freelancers. The self-employed contribute to the output of businesses, while businesses support their growth.

• There are more than 200,000 women-owned businesses today. Before the pandemic, there were a million.

• Self-employed Canadians are a group that policy work tends to miss. If they choose to join the unemployed, this can pose a huge problem.

• The demand for systemic change should be motivated by moral and social justice views.

The Power of Collective Action

• Nancy believes that change at the systemic level can happen through collective action and coordinated advocacy.

• Individual change is a distraction. It distracts people from systemic barriers and issues, discouraging them from forming groups.

• Groups like the Canadian Women’s Chamber of Commerce speak to the policymakers. However, they need women’s voices to inform them of their experiences and thoughts.

• Advocacy means more than just signing petitions and marching in rallies. 

• You can also advocate through the way you run your business, your conversations with people, and joining groups like the Chamber.

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Tabatha Bull is the president and CEO of the Canadian Council for Aboriginal Business. She is committed to supporting the indigenous economy with her team at CCAB. By removing systemic barriers and advocating for diversity, Tabatha aims to improve opportunities for indigenous businesses. 

Tabatha is Anishinaabe, a proud member of the Nipissing First Nation. She is also an electrical engineer committed to supporting indigenous communities, especially in the energy sector. Tabatha wants to realize the potential for growth in the indigenous community and strengthen the path toward reconciliation.

Listen to this episode to:

1. Discover the difficulties indigenous peoples face.

2. Find out the critical leadership values we need to address today’s injustices.

3. Learn the seven grandfather teachings and how to take them into your business.

Resources:

• Canadian Council for Aboriginal Business

• Shopper’s Drug Mart

• Jenn Harper and Cheekbone Beauty 

• Connect with Tabatha: LinkedIn | CCAB

Connect with Angela: Angela Wallace Impact Agency | Scale Conscious

Episode Highlights

Tabatha: “We all have an opportunity, not just a role to play, but an opportunity to really make a difference.”

• Procurement is one of CCAB’s programs that has become a major priority. 

• Indigenous businesses are in various sectors. Other companies can support the economy by purchasing what they need from them.

• It’s especially important for small and medium businesses to do so. This can allow indigenous businesses to get in and get the experience they need to grow.

• One of the biggest barriers is their access to financial and social capital. Many of their businesses need connections that can help them grow, scale, or even start.

• Before coming to CCAB, Tabatha worked in the energy sector. At that time, she reflected on the seven grandfather's teachings and felt that her work went against her values.

• For her, much is rooted in honesty. Tabatha tried to come from a place of honesty to build trust and humility.

• CCAB now has a circular organizational chart. Their mission is at the circle's center, followed by the CEO's office. Each department has an equal slice of pie in the circle.

• A hierarchical chart only connects at the top level. Meanwhile, a circular structure ensures that everyone is connected and equally important.

Tabatha: “We have to remember that we're only as strong as the people that are working with us. And if they're feeling overwhelmed, then we need to find ways to support them.”

• Sometimes, you may feel disheartened and feel there's not enough movement. It takes a lot of patience, but much progress has been made in the past years.

• Throughout their struggles, indigenous businesses continue to show up and show their resiliency.

• There are many opportunities, and several people support the work the CCAB is doing.

• There are more and more conversations about indigenous businesses and the opportunities and benefits of working with them.

• People need to spread the word and keep these conversations going.

• Remember to be gentle with yourself and with each other on the journey. Let your leadership values reflect that.

• Everybody has their own pace. Find the route that can be easier for your heart and mind.