Is private equity ruining the HVAC, plumbing, and home services industry? Seems like half the posts I read these days are about this topic.

It's no secret that private equity has been consolidating home service businesses in almost every market across the country. In this episode we explore this red hot topic with someone who made his exit a few years ago. Join us as we explore some heated topics on the matter. Buckle up for one of the longest conversations I've ever had on this podcast.

Gary Singleton is an HVAC lifer who scaled multiple home service companies. He's currently involved in real estate and helping other contractors scale theirs.

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Most of you remember Evan Hoffman as the magnetic host of "HVAC Success Secrets Revealed", now the host of the Let's Vent Podcast. In this episode we cover a range of things like life, working in the trades, and some tough personal topics.

Evan serves as a Fractional CMO with Free Agency, which means companies pay him to do the marketing strategy without having to give him a desk or health insurance, truly the dream. Evan Hoffman began his career in HVAC as a "Comfort Advisor," which is somehow a real job title and means he got paid to walk into people's homes and convince them their AC unit was basically a ticking time bomb. He was very good at this.Naturally, the next logical step was publishing three neighborhood magazines simultaneously, because if there's one thing a man who sells air conditioners is qualified to do, it's journalism. He did this for five years with Best Version Media before pivoting to owning a digital marketing agency focused on home services.. a venture that ended in 2024 when his business partner asked him to leave, which Evan prefers to describe as "an amicable parting of ways" and everyone else describes as "getting kicked out." During this same era, he co-hosted HVAC Success Secrets Revealed for 250 episodes, proving that if you can make heating and cooling compelling for that long, you can make anything a podcast.Today, He also hosts Let's Vent, a podcast he launched in 2025 that is either a masterclass in emotional intelligence or a natural consequence of everything listed above. Probably both.Episode Sponsors⁠pivotl.com - Home Service Accounting and CFO⁠mymethod.ai/inthishouse⁠ - Customized Ai Employees⁠cooperandhunter.us⁠ - HVAC / Ductless Equipment

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Today we dive into indoor air quality (IAQ), as well as some meaningful experiences from an HVAC industry lifer...

John Ellis used to be a rockstar... literally...

Today, John teaches the Indoor Air Quality Principles Workshop for Daikin/Amana/Goodman, serves as a Field Service Trainer and Business Development Manager for The New Flat Rate, and is a Product Ambassador for Dust Free. Recently named one of the Top 25 Most Influential HVACR Instructors / Trainers for 2024, John joins the show to talk IAQ, real-world diagnostics, and what contractors need to understand about creating healthier indoor environments.

Owner of Dynamic Air Consulting, brings more than 40 years of HVAC experience specializing in indoor air quality, building science, system performance, and field training. A former HVAC contractor and project manager, John has worked on major projects in hospitals, hotels, prisons, water treatment plants, and schools, including a South Coast AQMD pilot study testing high-performance filtration systems.

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