Summary

Host Elena Lappin interviews acclaimed novelist Ben Markovits about his Booker-shortlisted novel THE REST OF OUR LIVES. Tom's wife Amy had an affair many years ago, and now that their youngest daughter is leaving home, Tom is supposedly ready to end his marriage. But will he? Markovits talks about the complexities of navigating middle age, focusing on the narrowing options individuals face as they grow older. It explores the idea of self-experimentation and the potential for personal growth, while also addressing the emotional challenges of leaving behind a previous life. The discussion highlights the tension between the desire for change and the reality of established life paths.

Keywords

middle age, life choices, parenthood, self-experimentation, happiness, personal growth, life course, change, identity, marriage, infidelity

Takeaways

One of the problems with middle age is the illusion of choices.

As you get older, the options narrow significantly.

People often struggle with the idea of their life course being set.

Self-experimentation can lead to unexpected happiness.

You can do almost anything to yourself and still find joy.

The heart of Tom's predicament lies in his sense of possibility.

Embracing change is essential for personal growth.

Betraying the past can be a part of moving forward.

Middle age brings a unique set of challenges and opportunities.

Understanding one's capacity for change is crucial.

Sound bites

"The options narrow as you get older."

"It might not even make you unhappy."

"Experimentation can lead to happiness."

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Keywords

Charlotte Mendelson, Wife, lesbian marriage, relationships, narcissism, family dynamics, literature, emotional complexity, storytelling, character development, contemporary fiction

Episode Summary

In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, bestselling novelist Charlotte Mendelson discusses her latest novel, WIFE, which intricately explores the dynamics of a lesbian marriage between Zoe and Penny. Through a reading from the book, Mendelson delves into the complexities of their relationship, the themes of desire, control, and the impact of narcissism. The conversation also touches on the inspiration behind the novel, the portrayal of lesbian relationships in literature, and the challenges of writing about intimate subjects. Mendelson's sharp wit and insightful observations provide a rich exploration of personal and family relationships, making this episode a compelling listen for fans of contemporary literature.

Takeaways

Charlotte Mendelson's 'Wife' explores the intricacies of a lesbian marriage.

The novel is structured around two timelines: a 20-year relationship and its final day.

Zoe, the protagonist, embodies a nurturing spirit contrasted with Penny's assertiveness.

Mendelson aims to depict the complexities of desire and control in relationships.

The book addresses the theme of narcissism and its impact on personal relationships.

Mendelson's writing reflects her experiences and observations of family dynamics.

The portrayal of lesbian relationships in literature is evolving, yet still faces stereotypes.

Mendelson emphasizes the importance of authenticity in storytelling.

The challenges of writing about intimate subjects are significant for authors.

Gardening serves as a metaphor for personal growth and emotional complexity in Mendelson's work.

Titles

Unpacking 'Wife': A Deep Dive into Relationships

Charlotte Mendelson on Love, Loss, and Literature

Chapters

00:00 Exploring 'Wife': A Reading from the Novel

05:48 Character Dynamics: Zoe and Penny's Relationship

20:12 The Complexity of Desire and Control

29:22 Narcissism in Relationships: A Deeper Look

43:54 The Inspiration Behind 'Wife' and Its Themes

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Summary

In this episode of Shop Talk with Writers, host Elena Lapin engages with Armand Dungour, a professor of classics, to explore the themes of love as presented in Plato's Symposium. D'Angour discusses the historical context of the text, the various perspectives on love presented by its speakers, and the philosophical implications of Socrates' teachings. The conversation delves into the relevance of these ancient ideas in modern times, emphasizing the importance of understanding love's complexities and the influence of historical figures like Socrates and Diotima. D'Angour also shares insights into his own work and passion for making classical texts accessible to contemporary audiences.

Takeaways

The Symposium presents multiple viewpoints on love through its characters.

Socrates' teachings on love are influenced by his relationship with Diotima.

Love is portrayed as a harmonizing force in both personal and societal contexts.

The dialogue emphasizes the importance of true love over mere physical attraction.

Understanding love requires recognizing its complexities and nuances.

Plato's work remains relevant in modern discussions about love and relationships.

The concept of platonic love is rooted in Socratic philosophy.

Armand D'Angour aims to make classical texts accessible to modern readers.

The historical context of the Symposium enriches its themes of love.

Music and literature are intertwined in the exploration of ancient ideas.

Keywords

Plato, Symposium, love, ancient texts, Socrates, Diotima, modern lovers, philosophy, classics, Armand D'Angour

Titles

Unraveling Love: Insights from Plato's Symposium

Socrates and Diotima: The Philosophical Foundations of Love

Sound bites

"An ancient guide for modern lovers."

"Love inspires creation."

"What matters is who you love."

Chapters

00:00 Exploring the Concept of Love in Ancient Texts

19:55 The Influence of Socrates and Diotima

39:05 Diverse Perspectives on Love: The Symposium's Speakers

47:45 Socrates and the Nature of True Love

01:04:43 Bridging Ancient and Modern Understandings of Love

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