Katie Hawley came to Chico to run for the Wildcats.

That was the plan, anyway. What she found was a place that slowly, almost quietly, became hers.

A team became family. A park became home turf. A college town became home.

And somewhere between workouts in Bidwell, long conversations, fun little adventures, hard seasons, good people and a whole lot of showing up, Katie became part of Chico in a way that feels almost impossible to separate now.

She is one of those rare people who makes a place feel more alive simply by caring about it out loud.

She’s smart enough to understand the complicated stuff, funny enough to make it human, awkward enough to make it charming, and sincere enough that none of it ever feels like an act.

She can talk about roads, housing, parks and public policy - and then film herself lying on the pavement, standing in a creek, running through town or doing something just weird enough to make you actually pay attention.

And, it works. Because Katie Hawley doesn’t just represent Chico. She loves Chico.

You can hear it when she talks about Bidwell Park. You can see it in the way she talks about people. You can feel it in the way she has chosen to spend her time, her energy and a very public part of her life trying to make this place a little better.

In this episode of Pod on the Run, we talk about the runner she was, the person Chico helped her become, the strange road from collegiate athletics to City Council, the people who shaped her, the years that challenged her, and what it means to keep running when the finish line keeps changing.

We also get appropriately ridiculous.

There’s Good News Monday. There’s a Chico Draft. There are questionable civic-communication ideas involving potholes, snorkeling gear, waterfalls and beer miles. There are rapid-fire questions. There is almost certainly some wonderfully Katie-level awkwardness.

But underneath all of it is something much bigger.

It’s a story about finding your place.

About arriving somewhere because of one thing and staying because it gave you a hundred others.

About realizing that community isn’t just where you live. It’s something you participate in. Something you protect. Something you laugh with. Something you give yourself to.

Katie came to Chico to run.

Then Chico gave her people to run with, places to run through, reasons to stay, and eventually something worth running for.

And Chico is better because she did.

Katie Hawley is running for Chico.

Episode 26 goes long. Before Ross and Petar sit down with today’s guest, they check in on training, Chico summer heat, good miles, fresh pavement, and a running community that continues to absolutely crush.

BRC, CRC, Fleet Feet, Union Run Club, Colby Mountain TrailFest - the local scene is rolling.

There are some huge performances to celebrate, too. Nimei drops a 2:47 at the San Francisco Marathon. Logan Slack goes sub-five at the brutally steep Rodeo Valley 50K, finishing sixth overall and third in his age group. Maddy and California Travis battle through the Point Mariah Trail Marathon, and Beth puts together a strong day at the Napa to Sonoma Half.

Then the main event: Todd Ziegenmeyer - Tahoe Rim Trail 100 finisher, Canyons 100 finisher, mountain racer, real estate professional, gear obsessive, creator of Flow State apparel, and now a 25th-place finisher at the 2026 Tahoe 200, covering more than 200 miles in 68 hours, 30 minutes.

In this episode, Ross and Petar dive into Todd’s story from growing up in Sutter and his relationship with brother Logan to discovering ultrarunning, moving to Chico, and quietly building an impressive race résumé.

Then they go deep on Tahoe.

Todd breaks down why he chose 200 miles, what scared him going in, the heat, sleep deprivation, nutrition, hallucinations, dark miles, and the mental battles that come with spending nearly three straight days in the mountains. He also shares how his crew - including Mitch, Peter Hansen, Joey Skaggs, Matt Henderson, Logan Slack, Frank Rebelo, family, friends, and Whisky the dog - helped carry him through the toughest moments.

Todd is also the creator behind Flow State, an apparel project built around tear-off tank tops designed specifically with runners in mind. We dig into where the idea came from, the problem Todd wanted to solve, what “Flow State” means to him, and how his experience as a runner shapes the way he thinks about design. We also talk about the unofficial official ambassadors already rocking the tanks, whether he sees the brand staying local or growing into something bigger, and what’s next as Flow State moves from prototypes toward a wider launch.

Then court is officially in session with the debut of Trail Court, where Todd rules on Bluetooth speakers, shirtless running, walking climbs, zero-drop shoes, cold plunges, trail etiquette, and other alleged running crimes.

From Sutter to Chico, 100 miles to 200, real estate to Flow State — Episode 26 is the story of Todd Ziegenmeyer continuing to find out just how far he can go.

Episode 25 brings the heat. Before Ross and Petar sit down with today’s guest, they run through a stacked lineup of summer shoutouts because the Chico running community has been absolutely cooking. Tahoe 200, Dipsea, Broken Arrow, Headwaters, Lemurian, CRC, BRC, Fleet Feet — the whole region is buzzing, thriving, and leveling up.

Then the main event: Damian Garcia, one of the most complete runners to ever come through Chico State. A West Region champion, multi‑time CCAA champion, national finalist, and owner of one of the fastest 1500-meter times in Division II history. He’s run the equivalent of a sub‑four mile, shattered school records, and keeps finding new gears every season.

But Damian is more than the accolades. He’s the team barber. A pizza and burrito connoisseur. A fisherman. A Rubik’s Cube wizard. A grounded, humble athlete whose rise from Turlock to national prominence is one of the best stories in Wildcat history.

In this episode, Ross and Petar dive into Damian’s origin story — from growing up in Turlock and discovering his engine to finding home at Chico State and stepping into the national spotlight. They unpack the breakthrough races that changed everything, including his historic 3:35 at Azusa, the school‑record 800, and the West Region 10K title. Damian opens up about the mental game, the role his mom has played in his journey, and what keeps him coming back to the sport. The conversation explores the Chico State system, the teammates and coaches who shaped him, and the culture that makes the Wildcats different. They break down tactical mile scenarios, talk barber life, pizza missions, fishing stories, and Rubik’s Cube speed, and dig into the gear he trusts.

Damian reflects on his connection to the Chico running community, his preparation for the USA Championships, his long‑term dreams, and the future of his running career. He even delivers his entire running philosophy in exactly ten words before taking on the Pod on the Run Rubik’s Cube Challenge and Petar’s secret lightning round.

The episode closes with a look at who Damian Garcia is becoming and the legacy he hopes to leave.

Episode 24 is a full‑stride tour through the Chico running universe - community highs, big race breakthroughs, and the kind of mid‑life brilliance that only comes from someone who has lived enough life to know better… and run anyway.

We kick things off at Global Running Day, where Fleet Feet turned a free 5k into a full‑blown Chico reunion. The Chico Striders and Danny DiMeo handed out this year’s Run Strong Scholarships to local high‑school seniors, surrounded by sponsors like Bidwell Run Club, Chico Running Club, The Original A‑Team, and individual supporters Tracie Hannick and Christine Campbell. We grabbed interviews with Danny and a couple of the scholarship runners - and they’re sprinkled throughout the episode like perfectly timed aid‑station snacks.

As we hit record, Todd Ziegenmeyer was out representing Chico on the Tahoe 200 course - one of the wildest tests of grit in the sport.

Then we roll into race recaps. First up: Steven Hartman, who just obliterated a 50k in Oregon and brought back a perspective that’s equal parts grounded and gritty. After that, we caught up with Peter Hansen - The Form - fresh off a monster run at The Light at the End of the Tunnel Marathon, where he punched up his Boston Qualifying time like it owed him money.

Before we dive into our main guest, we look ahead at what’s coming up in the community: the Colby Mountain TrailFest with Bidwell Run Club and the 4th of July 5k hosted by Chico Running Club - both fueling and supporting the Run Strong Scholarship that keeps this whole ecosystem thriving.

And then… we get to Neil. This is where the episode earns its title: Sage Advice.

Neil is 60-3, but in running years he's the guy who shows up humble, quotes a study about aerobic development, and then drops you on a hill. He’s funny, wise, analytical, and somehow both modest and quietly unstoppable. He talks about growing up in Boston with the marathon practically baked into his DNA, his Carlsbad years, and the winding path from runner to the mortgage industry to lawyer to teacher… and back to runner.

He breaks down how he re‑engineered his running form, why he’s proud of the athlete he’s turning into, and how he plans to savor every mile from here on out. He studies the sport like it’s a master class - VO₂ max, cadence, ground contact, mechanics, progression, longevity - and yes, algebra is absolutely part of his joy.

And in classic Neil fashion, he drops a few dry, perfectly placed one‑liners about dating apps and mid‑life romance - the kind that sneak up on you and make you laugh out loud.

Then we hand him the chalk for Professor Neil, where he dishes out pop‑quiz answers, running truths, and a homework assignment guaranteed to make you a better runner (or at least a smarter one).

This episode is clever, heartfelt, funny, and full of the kind of perspective you only get from someone who’s lived a lot of life - and is running straight into the next chapter with joy, curiosity, and a very dialed‑in cadence.

Sage advice. Big laughs. A whole lot of heart. Lace up. Let’s run.

This episode is a celebration of community - the people who shape our races, carry us through the hard miles, and remind us that running is never a solo act. Through stories from Boston, Eugene, Big Sur, and the Mendocino Coast, these voices share how togetherness, weather, terrain, crowds, and crew support transform a race into something shared and deeply human. From the emotional simplicity of running side‑by‑side, to the internal negotiations of the middle miles, to the coastline that becomes a companion, to the ultra-community that turns endurance into belonging, each segment reveals a different way we’re held by the people around us. What emerges is a portrait of running as a communal experience—messy, joyful, reflective, chaotic, grounding, and always shaped by the “we” more than the “I.”

In Episode 21 of Pod on the Run, we sit down with someone who helps more than one-thousand girls each year discover confidence through movement. Claire Johnson, Executive Director of Girls on the Run North State, is one of those rare leaders who doesn’t just run a program — she builds a community. Her story begins in a family of twelve, where she learned early how to listen, negotiate, and find her voice. Those skills now shape the way she leads coaches, volunteers, and teams across more than sixty sites from Yuba City to Yreka, creating spaces where girls feel seen, supported, and capable of more than they imagined.

Claire shares how Girls on the Run grew from Molly Barker’s original vision in 1996 — a curriculum designed to help girls reclaim their identity and emotional strength through movement — into a national force that has reached more than 2.5 million participants. We explore how GOTR blends running with life‑skills education, using kinesthetic learning to help girls navigate friendships, emotions, and the challenges of growing up in a world full of comparison and pressure. From the “friendship builder, tester, or breaker” conversations to the 10‑week arc that culminates in a Community Impact Project and a 5K, Claire brings to life what belonging looks like on a GOTR team.

We also dig into the scale and heart of the North State program: 1,000+ girls each year, more than 200 volunteer coaches, and a network of teams that stretch across rural, suburban, and small‑town communities. Claire talks about what it takes to support such a wide geographic footprint, the unique spirit of North State girls, and the moments that remind her why this work matters — especially in 2026, when confidence, identity, and emotional safety are more important than ever.

From the nervous energy at the starting line to the moment a girl realizes she can run farther than she thought, Claire paints a vivid picture of the transformation that happens when young people learn to trust their bodies, their voices, and their choices. We close with stories of leadership, community, and the joy of watching girls step into their own power — plus a fast‑paced lightning round with Petar to bring it home.

This episode is about confidence in motion, the adults who make that possible, and the girls who carry those lessons into every part of their lives.

For this special crossover episode, we laced up and headed out onto the North Rim Trail in Upper Bidwell Park, where we spent the morning hiking, talking, and filming with Nick Woodard of Tails, Ales & Trails. What started as a simple idea — two local podcasts meeting on a trail — turned into a reminder of how deeply movement, storytelling, and community intertwine.

Nick showed up with full production wizardry: selfie stick in hand, drone buzzing overhead, and the kind of smooth, on‑the‑move filming that makes a trail conversation feel like a cinematic experience. The miles flew by as we walked and talked, swapping stories about running culture, craft beer culture, and the people who make Chico’s outdoor community feel like home.

Tails, Ales & Trails is a podcast network dedicated to inspiring stories rooted in outdoor adventure, animals, and craft alcohol. Their episodes feature everyone from brewery owners to mountain bikers to extreme sport athletes, all centered on personal passion, community, and the great outdoors. Their vibe is equal parts curiosity, craftsmanship, and connection — and it shows in their polished production and the way they highlight the humans behind the hobbies.

Pod on the Run is our love letter to Chico’s running culture — the people pounding the trails and roads, the stories behind the miles, the community groups like Fleet Feet Chico and Bidwell Run Club, and the big existential questions like “Why do we even run?” We explore the heartbeat of this community through humor, honesty, and the kind of conversations that happen best while moving. That’s part of why this crossover made so much sense. Both podcasts orbit the same gravitational pull: people who show up, stories that matter, and communities built through shared rituals, whether that’s a run, a hike, or a post‑adventure pint. Running culture and brewery culture share the same DNA — connection, belonging, and the joy of gathering around something you love — and out on the North Rim Trail, that overlap became impossible to miss.

In this episode, we dig into the origin stories behind both podcasts, how outdoor spaces shape community, and the parallels between running culture and craft beer culture. We talk about the art of storytelling on the move, Nick’s slick filming setup (yes, including the drone), and why this crossover felt like two worlds naturally colliding. Two podcasts, one trail, and a shared love for movement, community, and the stories that bring people together.