Episode 19 of Pod on the Run traces the life of a man who rebuilt himself through discipline, imagination, service, and thousands of counter‑clockwise laps on a prison track. Joaquin Jordan grew up in Los Angeles during the height of the War on Drugs, raised by a single mother. He was a strong student and athlete, but the pull of addiction, identity, and survival dragged him into the justice system at fifteen. By adulthood, he was facing twenty‑five‑to‑life.

Inside those walls, Joaquin didn’t just survive - he went to work on himself. He studied relentlessly. He journaled daily. He led groups, facilitated conversations, and became a source of stability for people who had never known it. And in the middle of all that, he found a lifeline in an unexpected place: Runner’s World magazine. Each issue became a window into a world he had never touched. He tore out the annual mileage log and filled it with his runs. He cut out photos of runners moving through forests, parks, and cityscapes, taping them to his cell wall. Those images became his vision board - a map of the life he wanted but had never lived.

Every day, on a cambered asphalt track where you could only run counter‑clockwise, he imagined himself running in those places. He pictured the trees, the air, the freedom. Running became structure, identity, and hope. He ran twenty‑five marathons in twenty‑five weeks. He earned four AA degrees. He built programs that changed lives inside the facility. He became a counselor, a mentor, and a leader long before he ever stepped outside the gate.

His transformation was so undeniable that the governor granted him clemency for good behavior. Joaquin walked out of prison on a Friday and started college at Chico State the following Monday. Today, he’s an executive coach, counselor, consultant, statewide leader, and a law‑school student, using his lived experience to serve people navigating the same systems he once fought to survive. He also earned a bachelor's degree.

And those Runner’s World photos? He’s running in those places now. One of them was Lower Park in Chico — a route he once only knew from a magazine page taped above his bed. Today, he runs it regularly. He literally ran into his dream.

This episode walks through every chapter of that arc: growing up in LA during the War on Drugs, the descent into addiction and incarceration, the emotional hinge moment when he chose to change, the reality of prison life and the discipline it demanded, the birth of a runner on a prison track, the power of imagination and vision boards, the shock of re‑entry, the rise of a counselor and coach, the pursuit of law school, and the full‑circle moment of running the routes he once only dreamed of. It’s a story about movement as medicine, imagination as survival, and the power of choosing identity over circumstance. Joaquin Jordan didn’t just rebuild his life — he ran toward it, one lap at a time.

In Episode 18 of Ross and Petar’s Pod on the Run, the hosts sit down with legendary Chico State head coach Gary Towne, the man behind one of the most dominant dynasties in collegiate distance running. After a quick warm‑up on the latest running news and local chatter, they dive into Gary’s staggering résumé—23 straight conference titles (men), 20 of the last 23 West Region titles (men), 19 of the last 23 CCAA titles (women), 11 women’s regional titles, 31 combined regional titles, 42 combined CCAA titles, and 43 Top‑10 NCAA team finishes between the two genders since 1999. Both teams have qualified for NCAA’s together every year since 2000.

Gary begins by sharing his own story: growing up in Corning, discovering running at Shasta College almost by accident, and eventually becoming a very strong marathoner. He talks about the endurance adventures that shaped his toughness and empathy—most notably his “Everest on Cohasset” ride—and how staying fit continues to influence his coaching today.

The conversation explores the foundations of the Chico State XC machine: the early years, the culture he built, and the principles that have kept the program consistently elite. Gary opens up about managing a roster of 50 athletes, navigating confidence dips and injuries, and the human side of coaching that often goes unseen. He also breaks down his training philosophy, the importance of Chico’s trails and terrain, and the moment he realized he was building something special.

The episode moves into recruiting, where Gary discusses what he looks for beyond times, how the landscape has changed, and how he pitches Chico State to athletes who may not know the program’s history. He shares memorable stories from meets, unforgettable races, and the athletes who left a lasting impact, while reflecting on why Chico remains home despite opportunities elsewhere.

Things wrap up with fun segments like Coach Confessions, Myth or Fact, and Petar’s rapid‑fire round, giving listeners a mix of insight, humor, and behind‑the‑scenes stories. It’s a rare, engaging look into the mind of a coach who didn’t just build a successful program—he built a dynasty.

Episode 17 brings us an important conversation with Dr. Alan Hivale — a Chico‑based physical therapist with a doctorate from Loma Linda, 15+ years in outpatient ortho, and a concierge practice built around one mission: keep people doing what they love.

The episode kicks off with classic Pod on the Run banter and a little Chico runner appreciation. Congrats Neil and Nimai on crushing the Redding Marathon! From there, Alan jumps in with his background, his philosophy, and why he built a PT model that actually gives runners time, attention, and answers.

From that point on, the episode becomes a runner’s goldmine.

You’ll hear Alan break down the most common injuries he sees in Chico — what causes them, why they linger, and what runners get wrong. Then comes Rapid‑Fire Rehab Roulette, where we throw a few injuries at Alan and he fires back with quick, practical first steps for relieving the issues! No WebMD spirals required.

The conversation then shifts into the myths runners love to argue about: warm‑ups, stretching, plyos, and whether “knees over ankles” is actually a thing.

Mid‑episode, things get delightfully unhinged with PT Confessions - the most avoidable injuries, the advice he ignores himself, and the hill he’ll die on as a PT.

You’ll also hear Alan unpack what runners should actually do after a run, which recovery tools matter, and which ones belong in the “it’s a personality trait” category. The hosts put him through Keep It, Toss It, Upgrade It with foam rollers, massage guns, compression boots, and epsom salt baths.

One of the most memorable sections dives into Alan’s time running in Africa - the terrain, the culture, the surprises, and the lessons he brought back to his practice and his own training.

As the episode winds down, Alan talks about Inspire Physical Therapy’s role in the local running community and what he’s excited about in 2026.

Finally, Petar closes things out with his signature rapid‑fire questions before the hosts wrap what they learned, and how listeners can enter the episode’s performance‑sunglasses giveaway.

If you run, want to run, or have ever been injured while running, this episode is your new favorite long run companion.