"One of the real pleasures for me, I feel that Born to Run has stood up over time."

In this special episode of the Road Dog Podcast, Luis chats with Christopher McDougall, Eric Orton, Ted McDonald, Billy Barnett, and Jenn Shelton. These are all original members who went down into the Copper Canyons back in 2006 which inspired the book Born to Run. They discuss that original trip down to the Copper Canyon Ultra Marathon, how the photo cover of the book was picked, Caballo Blanco, how the trip came to be, impactful memories, the near fist fight in Death Valley at Badwater 135, what they all have been up to in the present, kids, the profound experience of that trip and the people, and creating opportunities.

Support Road Dog Podcast by:
1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast

2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on.

3. Buy some Road Dog merch here: https://roaddogpodcast-shop.fourthwall.com/

GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com

HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20

Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com

DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020

Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/

LUNA SANDALS

"Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite.

They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every

adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear

that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at

lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun.

Allwedoisrun.com

Luis Escobar (Host) Contact:

luis@roaddogpodcast.com

Luis Instagram

Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact:

kevin@roaddogpodcast.com

yesandvideo.com

Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters

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Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar

www.roaddogpodcast.com

"People want to be outdoors. They need space. It's inate in our being."

Recorded live at Main Street Cycles, Luis chats with Scott Clark of Main Street Cycles, James Grennan of Santa Barbara Land Trust, Doug Wilson a board member of Santa Maria Valley Open Space, Jon Blanchard of Santa Maria Valley Open Space, and Nick Batchelor from Orcutt Kids Bike Club. Topics include Santa Maria, the Land Trust, trail systems, Orcutt Kids Bike Club, conservation vs preservation, owning property on conservation lands, why it's so important, how to donate, why you shouldn't trespass, and recreational trails.

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2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on.

Salomon Pico Memorial Trail Run - Saturday, April 18, 2026

https://www.smvos.org/

GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com

HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20

Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com

DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020

Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/

LUNA SANDALS

"Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite.

They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every

adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear

that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at

lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun.

Allwedoisrun.com

GUESTS Contact Info:

Santa Maria Valley Open Space - https://www.smvos.org/

Scott Clark: Website: mainstreetcycles.com

Email: smbikeman@aol.com

Scottclarkphotos.com

James Grennan email: jgrennan@sblandtrust.org

Doug Wilson email: drdoug@stabilitystudio.com

Website: stabilitystudio.com

Chirowellnessgroup.com

Nick Batchelor website: orcuttkidsbikeclub.org

Luis Escobar (Host) Contact:

luis@roaddogpodcast.com

Luis Instagram

Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact:

kevin@roaddogpodcast.com

yesandvideo.com

Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters

kaoriphoto.com

Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar

www.roaddogpodcast.com

"Our goal here is really to just provide a better option. We lead by example with supplying clothes that are made in the right way, the best way and most sustainable way we can possibly find with the resources available currently."

Liam Moffat and Carson Leong are changing the game of outdoor clothing with their company called Seadon. In this episode, Liam and Carson chat with Luis about where they met, how the company started, eco friendly materials and packaging, run specific clothing, why they care about eco-friendly products, aligning the clothing they produce with their values, types of wool, their race jacket, race expos, what events they have coming up, the website, building experiences around the clothing, and their mission.

Support Road Dog Podcast by:
1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast

2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on.

GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com

HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20

Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com

DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020

Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/

LUNA SANDALS

"Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite.

They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every

adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear

that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at

lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun.

Allwedoisrun.com

Seadon Contact Info:

www.seadon.co

https://www.instagram.com/seadon.co/

liam@seadon.co

https://www.instagram.com/liam.m0ffat/?hl=en

Carson@seadon.co

https://www.instagram.com/carson_leong/?hl=en

Luis Escobar (Host) Contact:

luis@roaddogpodcast.com

Luis Instagram

Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact:

kevin@roaddogpodcast.com

yesandvideo.com

Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters

kaoriphoto.com

Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar

www.roaddogpodcast.com