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Recruiting Conversations

Recruiting Conversations

著者： Richard Milligan Recruiting Coach
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Welcome to the Recruiting Conversations Podcast, a conversation designed to help Recruiting Leaders who manage a team as well as recruit. Richard Milligan is a speaker, author, strategist, and recruiting coach who built 21 teams as a Recruiting Leader.4C Recruiting 2019 マーケティング マーケティング・セールス 経済学
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  • Recruits Google You Before They Call Back: 5 Moves to Control What They Find

    Recruits Google You Before They Call Back: 5 Moves to Control What They Find
    2026/09/22
    You leave a voicemail for a loan officer you'd love to have on your team, and before they ever call you back, they look you up. For years that meant Google. More and more it means they open ChatGPT and ask who you are, and whatever comes back becomes their first impression of you before you've said a single word. Most leaders have never once checked what that answer says. Here's what I want you to walk away with today. The answer about you gets written either way, and by the end of this episode you'll know how to help write it. I'll give you five moves to become the AI-recommended leader. Episode Breakdown [00:01:25] The Producer Who Signed Because of a Monday Post A leader I coach had been working a hundred-million-dollar producer for a long time. She made him an offer and he said he was in, then he didn't sign. The offer expired, she wrote another, he said yes again, and still no signature. Offer after offer, and if you've recruited any length of time you know how that feels, wondering if you said something wrong or if he was using you to get a raise. Then one Monday morning her phone buzzes, and it's a text. He's signing. He saw her post that morning and told her that was what he needed. Nothing about the offer changed that weekend. The comp was the same, the company was the same, the start date was the same. What changed was what he saw when he looked her up. He'd been quietly watching to see who she is as a leader the whole time, the same way every recruit does. [00:02:50] Move 1: Run the Check on Yourself Search your own name with nothing else attached, because that's exactly what a recruit does right after your voicemail. Then open ChatGPT and ask it who you are. That's the first minute of a recruit's research, and most leaders have never looked. While you're at it, search your name with the word mortgage and your state and scroll to page two, because all of that is part of what a recruit sees. I ran an AI audit recently on a producer doing about $25 million a year. When somebody searched her name, AI named her 19 times out of 20. When a stranger asked AI for a loan officer in her market, it named her zero times out of 35. She had profiles, reviews, and content everywhere, and she was still invisible to anyone who didn't already know she existed. [00:03:54] Move 2: Say Who You Are the Same Way Everywhere AI decides what to say about you based on clarity and agreement first. Clarity means it has to be sure which person you are, because a common name, an old title, or a company change last year can make it describe somebody else or an older version of you. Agreement means your LinkedIn, your company bio, and every intro all describe the same leader. So write one sentence I call your known-for statement, who you build for, where you lead, what you help them do, and what changes for them when they work with you, and only say what's true for your team today. Put that sentence in your LinkedIn headline, the first line of your About section, your company bio, and every podcast or speaker intro, then leave it alone for 90 days, because AI learns it from repetition. And when a recruit clicks through to your LinkedIn, open your About section with who you are outside of work, because they only see the first few lines before they decide whether to keep reading, and I want them connecting with you as a person first. [00:05:15] Move 3: Put Proof Where Recruits Look The third thing AI weighs is proof from other people, and what loan officers say about you carries more weight than anything you'll ever write about yourself. I studied a loan officer who shows up number one in AI in his market and couldn't explain why. When we dug in, it was reviews. At every closing his team hands the client an iPad with the Google review already pulled up, the whole team does it, and he's sitting on around 1,800 of them. The same principle works for you as a leader. Ask the loan officers you lead for an honest LinkedIn recommendation about what it's been like working together. Tell them to say whatever's true and that it's completely fine if they'd rather not, keep it voluntary, don't offer anything in exchange, and run any team results past your compliance team before you publish them. [00:06:15] Move 4: Build for the Kitchen Table There's a predictable path every recruit takes once you've reached out. First is the check, that bare search on your name, and it's the one that matters most. If you pass it, they do the company check to see what's behind you. Then comes the kitchen table, where they decide, usually with a spouse who looks you up all over again on a phone that's never more than an arm's length away. That spouse may have heard years of complaints about this industry and has no reason to trust you yet. So build one page, I call it your Working With Me page, that answers what the spouse wants to know, who you're a great fit for, how you lead, and what it's like to be on your team. Most leaders never think about that ...
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    11 分
  • Stop Posting Rates and Products: 5 Moves to Become the Authority In Your Market

    Stop Posting Rates and Products: 5 Moves to Become the Authority In Your Market
    2026/08/11
    The producers you want are watching you before they ever reply, and a rate sheet doesn't make anybody want to follow you. You know you need to be visible, but every time you show up, the only thing you know how to talk about is rates or products, and it isn't landing. Here's what I want you to walk away with today. You build authority by becoming the most valuable, most visible voice in your market, and you can do that without ever leading with a rate or a product. I'll give you a five-move framework to get there. Episode Breakdown [00:01:07] The Leader Who Got Louder When the Market Went Quiet I coached a leader whose market got wrecked by a hurricane. Homes gone, business frozen, and everybody in the industry went quiet and hunkered down. That's what most people do when things get hard, they disappear. I coached him to do the opposite, to become the single most visible person in that marketplace. He started a weekly webinar, not to pitch his company but to help, bringing in the people his market needed to hear from and answering the questions everybody was too scared to ask. He wasn't talking about his rates, he was talking about what his market needed. Within a few months he wasn't just another loan officer in a broken market, he was the authority everybody turned to. Authority doesn't come from selling. It comes from being the most valuable voice in the room. [00:02:03] Move 1: See Yourself as a Media Company First Most leaders think of themselves as a mortgage pro who happens to post online now and then. Flip that. You're a media company that happens to do mortgages, because attention is what earns the conversation, and content is how you earn attention. [00:02:32] Move 2: Talk to the People You Want to Recruit, Not the People You Want to Close This is the most common mistake I see. A leader's content speaks to consumers or to agents, the people he sells to, when the people he's trying to recruit are loan officers. If you want to attract producers, make content that speaks to producers, about leadership, about growth, about the things they lie awake thinking about. [00:03:00] Move 3: Give Value in Public The fastest way to build authority is to solve real problems out loud where everybody can see it. Answer the questions your market is afraid to ask, teach what you know. When you're the one consistently giving value away, you become the one people trust long before you ever make an ask. [00:03:23] Move 4: Feature Other People Authority isn't only about you talking. Some of the most powerful positioning comes from putting other respected voices on your platform, the way that leader did with his webinar. When you're the one convening the room, you're the authority in it, even when you aren't the one speaking. [00:03:43] Move 5: Curate, Don't Just Create You don't have to produce something brand new every single day. Knowing your market cold and pointing people to the three things that matter most this week is its own form of authority. Curation beats constant creation, because being the trusted filter is often worth more than being one more voice adding to the noise. [00:04:05] Why It Works Producers vet you before they ever reply, and a rate sheet tells them nothing about whether you're worth following. Value tells them everything. When you consistently give without asking, you flip the whole dynamic, and instead of chasing producers you become the person they seek out. That's the difference between visibility that's just noise and authority that recruits. One is about being seen, the other is about being trusted, and trust is what makes someone pick up the phone when you finally reach out. [00:04:45] Your Small Win Tonight Write down the three questions the producers in your market are quietly worried about right now. Not your customers, your future recruits. Just naming those three is your win, because that list is your content for the next month. [00:05:00] Three Bigger Moves This Week Publish one piece of content that answers one of those questions and mentions your rates and products nowhere, so your market starts seeing you as a leader instead of a lender. Invite one respected voice in your market onto something you host, a call, a webinar, a post, so you become the one convening the room. Then pick one thing you'll curate for your market every week, so you build the habit of being the trusted filter, and when you show up as the authority your whole team gets easier to recruit into because people already know who you are. Key Takeaways You build authority by becoming the most valuable, most visible voice in your market, and you can do it without ever leading with a rate or a product. When the market goes quiet, get louder. Visibility in a hard season is how you become the authority everybody turns to. You're not a mortgage pro who posts now and then. You're a media company that happens to do mortgages. Most leaders aim their content at the people they close, not the people they recruit. If ...
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    7 分
  • Nobody Feels Your Corporate Posts: 5 Moves to Cast Vision That Moves

    Nobody Feels Your Corporate Posts: 5 Moves to Cast Vision That Moves
    2026/09/01
    You know you're supposed to show up. You know the producers you want are watching. But every time you sit down to post, one of two things happens. Either it comes out sounding like a corporate mission statement nobody feels, or you freeze up, stare at the screen, and decide you've got nothing worth saying. Here's what I want you to walk away with today. The producers you want are already watching you online, and they're deciding whether you're a leader worth following. The goal on social is to show up consistently and cast a future they want to be part of, in a voice that sounds like you and not a press release. I'll give you five moves to do that without sounding stiff and without ever running out of things to say. Episode Breakdown [00:01:20] The Mistake That's Keeping Your Content From Recruiting Most leaders post to the wrong audience. They talk to consumers and to agents, the people they sell to, and then they wonder why no producers ever reach out. If everything on your page is about rates, market updates, and closings, a loan officer scrolling by sees nothing that speaks to them. The people you're trying to recruit aren't your customers. They don't care about your rate specials, they care about where you're going, what it's like to be led by you, and whether they'd grow by being on your team. The day I stopped posting like a producer and started posting like a leader, everything changed. [00:02:24] Move 1: See Yourself as a Media Company First Most leaders think of themselves as a mortgage pro who happens to post online now and then. Flip that completely. You're a media company that happens to do mortgages. The moment I started seeing the world through that lens, content stopped feeling like a chore I had to squeeze in and started becoming the business itself. Attention is what earns you the conversation, and content is how you get attention. It isn't a side project, it's the top of your entire recruiting funnel. [00:03:00] Move 2: Lead With You, Not the Platform The leader is the product, the company is not. Every company out there offers basically the same platform, the same comp structure, the same licensing reach. It's a sea of sameness, and sameness never moves anybody. The one thing that sets you apart is you, your value stack, your coaching track record, your vision for the culture. So your content should lead with what you bring, not what your company offers. Producers can get the company anywhere. They can only get you from you. [00:03:40] Move 3: Lead With Team Vision There are three altitudes of vision. Me vision is what you get. Corporate vision is what the company gets. Team vision is what a producer gets by being part of what you're building. Corporate vision is what makes you sound like a press release nobody feels. Team vision, the specific future they get to be part of, is the one that moves people. So when you cast vision on social, cast it at that altitude, the one that answers the only question they're asking, which is what's in it for me. [00:04:15] Move 4: Use Social ID So You Never Run Dry Leaders constantly tell me they have nothing to post, and then they turn around and lead all day long. The framework I coach is Social ID. ID stands for identify and document. Identify what you're already doing as a leader and document it. The one-on-one you just had, the problem you solved this morning, the recruiting conversation that taught you something. You're not inventing content out of thin air and you're not performing, you're just capturing the leadership you're already living. Do that, and you'll never run out of material again. [00:04:55] Move 5: Move From Transactional to Transformational Most producer content is transactional. Closings, numbers, rate updates. It says look what I did. Transformational content says here's what I believe, here's where we're going, here's what I'm learning as a leader. That's the content that builds connection instead of just racking up views. And then you keep showing up, because visibility precedes relevancy. The producers you want will often watch you quietly for months before they ever say a word. Those likes today aren't the point. You're posting for the recruit who's watching right now and hasn't said a word yet. [00:05:42] Why It Works Producers decide who to follow based on who they want to become, and a corporate mission statement gives them nothing to reach for. A clear vision led by a real leader, told through real moments, gives them a future they can see themselves inside. Social ID works because authenticity beats polish every time, and the truest, most magnetic content you have is the leadership you're already doing every single day. Consistency works because trust isn't built in one viral post, it's built over months. The leader who shows up week after week becomes familiar, and over time that familiarity turns into trust, and trust is what finally makes a producer reach out. Winning the algorithm was never the point. The point ...
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    9 分
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