In this episode of the Psyche Podcast, I sit down with Paul J. Leslie to explore the power of co-creating therapeutic themes—especially with male clients. Drawing from Paul’s book Transforming Themes, we dive into how therapy with men often involves shifting both perception and performance in order to unlock change. We talk about the limitations of traditional cognitive approaches and highlight how action, ritual, and creative reframing can bring about meaningful transformation. We also discuss the importance of therapist creativity, the value of feedback-informed treatment, and why staying curious and well-rounded helps deepen our therapeutic connections. This conversation is packed with practical insights and inspiration for anyone working with men in therapy.

In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Allen Novian for a powerful conversation on men’s mental health. We explore the evolving landscape of masculinity and the deep courage it takes for men to open up and seek therapy. Allen and I talk about the stigma that still surrounds male vulnerability, and how embracing curiosity—rather than shame—can be a transformative part of the healing process. We also dig into the roles that grief, father-son dynamics, and cultural expectations play in shaping how men show up in the world. This episode is a reminder that strength isn’t about pushing through at all costs—it’s about learning to care, pay attention, and grow through life’s challenges.

In this raw and wide-ranging episode of the Psyche Podcast, I sit down with theologian, author, and former emergent church leader Tony Jones to explore his latest book The God of Wild Places. We reflect on faith, failure, and the search for meaning after both public and personal upheaval. Tony opens up about his years in seminary, his complicated relationship with Christian fame, and the vulnerable process of writing through divorce, fatherhood, and spiritual transformation. We talk about everything from Nancey Murphy’s non-reductive physicalism to predator-prey symbolism, spiritual disillusionment, and what it means to find a more humble, lowercase “g” god in life’s wild places. This conversation is honest, philosophical, and deeply human—perfect for anyone wrestling with belief, identity, and living authentically.

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