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People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast

People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast

著者: Andy Kaufman PMP PMI-ACP
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Welcome to the People and Projects Podcast, where we provide interviews and insights to help you lead people and deliver projects. Since 2009, this show is brought to you by speaker, author, and executive coach Andy Kaufman. If you're looking for insights on project management, leadership, and how AI influences both of those, you've come to the right place! And if you hold a project management certification, you can even earn free PDUs for listening!(c) 2001-2025 Institute for Leadership Excellence & Development Inc. マネジメント マネジメント・リーダーシップ 出世 就職活動 経済学
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  • PPP 524 | Why More Discipline May Not Be the Answer, with 100 Days of Rejection expert Jia Jiang
    2026/10/07
    Summary In this episode, Andy talks with Jia Jiang, bestselling author of Rejection Proof and creator of the 100 Days of Rejection experiment, about his new book, Easy Discipline. Growing up in Beijing, Jia was taught the value of chi ku, or "eating bitterness," the idea that the more pain you can tolerate, the more you can achieve. The problem? He was terrible at it. Over time, he discovered that his best work came when he was having the most fun. Andy and Jia explore what easy discipline does and doesn't mean, why action goals can work better than outcome goals, and how stepping into a character, like a consultant instead of a salesperson, can change your results. They also discuss how project leaders can build a momentum loop early, how a single one-action goal can help turn around a struggling project, why some efforts work best as time-boxed sprints, and how to tell normal resistance from work that simply doesn't fit who you are. Jia closes with stories of how he and his wife apply easy discipline as parents. If you're looking for a more sustainable way to stay consistent without constantly fighting yourself, this episode is for you! Sound Bites "It literally translates into English as eating bitterness.... The idea is the more bitterness, the more pain you can tolerate, the higher achievement you can go to.""If work ethic is the only thing that matters, the best factory workers will be the richest people in the world, right?""It's really the inner drive that takes us to go a long way.""I did programming to achieve a goal, to achieve some sort of success. He did programming for fun.""The things I didn't like to do? I failed miserably. For the things I like to do, I was doing them so well.""If you can tap into the 'play' part of yourself, the enjoyment part, that's where you are at your best, even at work.""Having a deadline, having a finish line is sometimes magical.""The key for me as a parent is this: How do I enjoy being with them more?" Chapters 00:00 Introduction01:58 Start of Interview02:08 Seen as Lazy and Hopeless: Learning to "Eat Bitterness"04:53 Grind Culture and the Myth of Hard Work Alone06:21 Elon Musk and the Power of Inner Drive08:00 What Easy Discipline Doesn't Mean09:11 Chasing the Bill Gates Dream11:42 Fired and Rehired by the Same Boss13:26 Applying Easy Discipline to Losing Weight16:05 Outcome Goals vs. Action Goals17:48 What Jia Still Hasn't Made Enjoyable20:28 Getting Into Character22:36 Accessing a Real Part of Yourself at Work23:43 Building a Momentum Loop Early in a Project26:05 Delivering Early and Finding Stakeholder Support27:14 One Action Goal for a Struggling Project29:22 Why Jia Told a CEO to Stop After 100 Days31:03 When Fast-Tracking Everything Backfires32:33 Normal Resistance or the Wrong Work?35:22 Living Someone Else's Dream37:23 Easy Discipline as Parents41:02 End of Interview41:44 Andy Comments After the Interview45:27 Outtakes Learn More You can learn more about Jia and his work at JiaJiang.com. You can also watch his TED Talk, What I Learned from 100 Days of Rejection. For more learning on this topic, check out: Episode 522 with Ross Blankenship and Maggie Sass. Their book Friction shares related ideas about reducing the friction in what we do.Episode 377 with Cassie Holmes. She's a happiness researcher who shares evidence-based approaches to live and work with more meaning and joy.Episode 242 with James Clear about his bestselling book, Atomic Habits, which has a lot in common with turning hard things into habits. Chat with PMeLa You can chat directly with PMeLa, the podcast's AI persona, to get episode recommendations and answers to your project management and leadership questions. Visit PeopleAndProjectsPodcast.com/PMeLa to chat with her. Join Us for LEAD52 I know you want to be a more confident leader–that's why you listen to this podcast. LEAD52 is a global community of people like you who are committed to transforming their ability to lead and deliver. It's 52 weeks of leadership learning, delivered right to your inbox, taking less than 5 minutes a week. And it's all for free. Learn more and sign up at GetLEAD52.com. Thanks! Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast! Talent Triangle: Power Skills Topics: Discipline, Motivation, Habits, Goal Setting, Momentum, Project Management, Leadership, Stakeholder Engagement, Career Development, Self-Awareness, Intrinsic Motivation, Parenting The following music was used for this episode: Music: Imagefilm 034 by Sascha Ende License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Music: Laughing Children Full Version by MusicLFiles License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license
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    48 分
  • PPP 523 | The New PMP® Exam: What Project Leaders Need to Know Now, with PMI VP Kelly Heuer
    2026/09/30
    Summary In this episode, Andy talks with Dr. Kelly Heuer, Vice President of Learning at PMI, where she leads global learning strategy across professional standards, training, certification, and career-long development. Kelly takes us behind the scenes of the updated PMP® exam and explains what changed in project work that made this refresh necessary. You'll hear why the business environment domain now makes up nearly a quarter of the exam, how new multi-question case scenarios assess judgment instead of memorization, and why broader recognition of associate and vocational degrees matters to her as a first-generation college graduate. Kelly and Andy also explore what a strategic project leader actually looks like, why judgment may be the new job security in the age of AI, and practical ways early-career professionals can build judgment as entry-level rungs disappear. Kelly shares how she learned to say the thing, the difference between perishable and enduring skills, and the two capabilities she most wants to grow in her kids. If you're preparing for the PMP, already certified, or looking to sharpen your judgment as a project leader in a world shaped by AI, this episode is for you! Sound Bites "You needed a project manager. And instead you got me, and I have no idea what I'm doing.""But you know, I am a firm believer that, you know, the credential associated with your name, the name of your university, whether you went to university or not, is nowhere near an adequate representation of your actual potential or your actual skill.""You don't have three facts. You have an entire story, right?""Having a consistent measurement system where you're looking at value accumulation, value realization throughout the course of a project through project close is a really important differentiator.""And it's about thinking three steps ahead and three rings out like in concentric circles of influence.""But one of the ways you can combat that is being specific about what you mean and what it looks like, right?""But, you know, the way I think of it is AI is just, like, the latest test of professional judgment.""But I want to make one more point as well, which is that learning by osmosis was never a good professional development strategy anyway.""So in here, in this case, I actually think AI is part of the solution to the problem that AI caused, which is one of the great things about AI, even the freely available tools, is it's kind of like an inexhaustible interlocutor.""Find ways to lead and manage small projects, even if you're just organizing trash collection in your neighborhood.""I think there's also just a lot of observational learning that doesn't have to hurt at all.""But you can do a lot of saying the thing, challenging directly, asking the question if you pair it with a lot of signals of interpersonal warmth, which can be things like smiling and eye contact.""It's so much less relevant to actually wordsmith your prompt now. It's much more about context engineering.""So in my opinion, the most enduring human skill of all is a capability for continuous learning, staying curious, staying fresh, staying open and permeable to new information, and strategic about how you build those skills so you're not wasting time doing it.""The robots are overconfident." Chapters 00:00 Introduction02:00 Start of Interview02:12 From Philosophy to Project Management04:55 What Changed in Project Work to Drive the PMP Exam Update07:52 Business Acumen and the Shift Toward Agile and Hybrid09:22 Recognizing Associate Degrees and Technical Education11:22 Counting Project Experience After Career Gaps13:29 Inside the New Multi-Question Case Scenarios16:47 Exam Prep Advice That No Longer Helps18:46 Closing the Gap Between the Real World and the Exam20:49 What a Strategic Project Leader Does Differently25:11 Avoiding Bias When Assessing Strategic Thinking26:17 Judgment as the New Job Security in the Age of AI29:15 How Early Career Professionals Can Build Judgment34:51 Small Projects, Observational Learning, and Near Peer Learning36:54 Learning to Say the Thing40:17 Coming Across as an Ally, Not a Critic41:21 Perishable, Durable, and Enduring Skills45:14 Growing Curiosity and Humility in Our Kids48:18 End of Interview48:51 Andy Comments After the Interview51:53 Outtakes Learn More You can learn more about Kelly and her work on LinkedIn at LinkedIn.com/in/kelly-heuer. For more learning on this topic, check out: Episode 319 with Sierra Hampton Simmons. Sierra is the former head of certification at PMI, and many of the ideas we discussed still apply to the refreshed PMP exam.Episode 513 with Fred Marshall. It's not about certification, but it's all about thriving in an age of AI, a major theme in today's episode.Episode 509 with Steve Kahle. Steve shares practical ideas for improving your ability to recall what you've learned. Chat with PMeLa You can chat directly with PMeLa, the podcast's AI persona, to get episode recommendations and answers to...
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    53 分
  • PPP 522 | Are You Removing the Wrong Friction?, with Maggie Sass and Ross Blankenship
    2026/09/05
    Summary In this episode, Andy sits down with Dr. Maggie Sass and Dr. Ross Blankenship, consulting psychologists and authors of Friction: How Tension, Emotion and Change Reveal Better Leaders. Project managers are trained to remove blockers, and much of the time that's exactly right. But Maggie and Ross draw a distinction that's easy to miss: some friction is simply waste, and some friction is information. You'll hear how the unwritten rules we learned about emotion early in life still shape how we lead, what starts happening in a room before an irritated leader says a word, and the four words Ross thinks can rescue a team meeting. We also dig into why burnout is often a system design problem instead of a self-care problem, what a project leader can actually do about structural friction when they can't redesign the whole system, and which human capabilities are worth protecting as AI makes more of our work faster and easier. If you're looking for a more practical way to read the tension on your team and use what it's telling you, this episode is for you! Sound Bites "But I think the unwritten rule at home was that talking about emotions and living through them safely were two distinct things.""Humans need things, and sometimes they don't even know what they need until you are together in a space or in a call.""You don't ask questions. You don't bring up creative ideas because you have no idea how that's really gonna go given what you're watching a leader do.""But I think the older I've gotten, the more convinced I am that our job as adults inside organizations is not necessarily to be perfect, but it's to repair as fast as possible when you make a mistake, and that's the thing that doesn't happen when people are scared.""I've found that these four words can save your team (and marriage): 'I'm experiencing some friction'.""It helps me remember that between the stimulus and the response, I have space, and the more that I give myself, the better.""There is no real way to separate task and relationship because the humans are doing the tasks.""Being the hero may allow you to solve massive problems or create really compelling products in the short term, but it's not a sustainable way to run a business because businesses are run by people and people have limits.""It's a good example where AI makes you more productive, like, you got 'em done faster, and almost entirely strips the meaning out of it.""And we need to take seriously that our kids need to learn to fail so that they develop resilience." Chapters 00:00 Introduction02:14 Start of Interview02:23 The Unwritten Rules Maggie Learned About Emotion04:06 Growing Up in Ross's House05:41 Why Ross Was Skeptical of EQ08:22 What Ross's Pushback Changed for Maggie11:01 Do You Have EQ, or Do You Do EQ?13:06 Can We Get Too Good at Smoothing the Path?16:56 Where Ross Deliberately Leaves Friction in Place18:46 What AI Missed When They Tried Using It on the Book20:35 Leadership as Emotional Intelligence in Action20:50 What Happens When an Irritated Leader Walks In24:39 Four Words That Can Change the Room27:00 When Your Body Writes the Story First29:28 Maggie's Physical Cue and How She Creates Space32:55 Burnout as a System Design Problem35:28 Patterns, Hero Ball, and Structural Friction37:00 A First Move When You Can't Redesign the System38:39 Which Human Capabilities Should We Protect From AI?42:11 What Maggie Refuses to Outsource43:27 Parenting: When to Remove Friction, When to Allow It46:22 The Tin Can Phone and a Kid Who Made Her Own Plans48:44 End of Interview49:18 Andy Comments After the Interview53:13 Outtakes Learn More You can learn more about Maggie, Ross, and their book at TalentSmartEQ.com/friction. For more learning on this topic, check out: Episode 397 with Dr. Julia DiGangi. It's a discussion about emotions that has stuck with Andy for years, and it's a great supplement to today's conversation.Episode 394 with Joshua Freedman. Joshua is a leading voice on emotional intelligence, making this a really good follow-up to Friction.Episode 446 with Adam Galinsky. Helpful insights on how to inspire those around us instead of sucking the life out of them. Chat with PMeLa You can chat directly with PMeLa, the podcast's AI persona, to get episode recommendations and answers to your project management and leadership questions. Visit PeopleAndProjectsPodcast.com/PMeLa to chat with her. Join Us for LEAD52 I know you want to be a more confident leader–that's why you listen to this podcast. LEAD52 is a global community of people like you who are committed to transforming their ability to lead and deliver. It's 52 weeks of leadership learning, delivered right to your inbox, taking less than 5 minutes a week. And it's all for free. Learn more and sign up at GetLEAD52.com. Thanks! Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast! Talent Triangle: Power Skills Topics: Leadership, Project Management, Emotional Intelligence, Friction, Conflict, ...
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    58 分
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