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  • #125 - Oil & Gas Investing for High-Income Pilots with Mark Fleming

    #125 - Oil & Gas Investing for High-Income Pilots with Mark Fleming
    2025/09/02
    Can oil and gas really be a smart play for high-income professionals? In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Mark Fleming, petroleum engineer and Turbine Capital’s oil & gas advisor, to break it down. From the basics of how drilling works to the tax advantages that can offset W2 income, you’ll learn the realities of this often-misunderstood industry. The conversation covers political risk, environmental concerns, portfolio allocation, and many more. Whether you’re curious about non-op partnerships, cashflow timing, or long-term energy trends, this episode gives you the insider perspective every pilot-investor needs.Mark Fleming is a petroleum engineer and oil & gas advisor with over 20 years of experience across Chevron, Hess, and EOG. He has also advised major banks on energy lending and helped startups navigate the public markets. Today, Mark serves as Turbine Capital’s oil and gas advisor, guiding strategy and due diligence for private funds. His expertise spans drilling technology, unconventional plays, energy policy, and risk assessment, making him a trusted voice for investors seeking clarity in this complex sector.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(00:41) Why oil & gas still matters(05:20) Oil investing is long-term, not quick(08:16) Politics and pricing shape investor returns(11:42) Game-changing advances in drilling & fracking(13:03) ESG, environment, and energy reality(16:47) Oil plays vs. gas plays explained(19:26) Three ways to invest privately(24:21) Upstream, midstream, and key tax benefits(30:58) How to vet operators & reduce risk(45:05) Oil cashflow vs. real estate returns(49:22) OutroHelpful Links: Houston Bus Tour Registration: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/houston-self-storage-portfolio-bus-tour-tickets-1591575237379?utm_experiment=test_share_listing&aff=ebdsshios&sg=ed19105646f93b16506dd629ad293a6953b60f4c21904c87d174147bc25617d71f6099f588a1abb3a895fbbeef2578e057d6effbb7d6e124cd35f68fece2d51827faa0c5beabab7ede30c93969LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-e-flemingGuide to U.S. Tax benefits for Direct Oil & Gas Drilling Investments: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DZBu5zH8dpotRFijs6-VmJo1HF4EvIIu/view?usp=sharing Bettering Human Lives Liberty Energy: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BqCoKUbcWBiaeY6g9l1DDsQFUY8Y8y82/view?usp=sharing The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money & Power: https://a.co/d/bwwLzZq — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you on the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.
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  • #124 - $44 Trillion and the Future of Retirement Investing with Mat Sorensen

    #124 - $44 Trillion and the Future of Retirement Investing with Mat Sorensen
    2025/08/26
    Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome Mat Sorensen, CEO of Directed IRA, for a powerful discussion on how pilots and high-income professionals can unlock private investment opportunities through retirement accounts. From self-directed IRAs to Solo Ks, Mat explains the mechanics of rolling over old 401(k)s, navigating recent regulatory changes, and tapping into lucrative private markets that were once out of reach. Mat Sorensen is the CEO of Directed IRA and Directed Trust Company, where he oversees thousands of self-directed retirement accounts including IRAs, Roth IRAs, HSAs, and Solo 401(k)s. He is also a senior partner at KKOS Lawyers and the bestselling author of The Self-Directed IRA Handbook. A recognized leader in the self-directed investing space, Mat has helped countless professionals leverage retirement accounts to access private investments and alternative assets.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(4:15) $44 trillion in U.S. retirement accounts(5:06) Trump’s executive order on 401(k)s(10:03) Fewer public companies, more private options(20:13) IRAs vs. 401(k)s for private investing(26:05) Pilot story: confusion with mutual funds(28:37) Tax implications of IRA vs. cash(35:29) How Mat vets private dealsHelpful Links: Website: https://matsorensen.com Mat’s PodcastsDirected IRA Podcast → https://directedira.com/education/#category-podcastsMain Street Business Podcast → https://www.mainstreetbusiness.com Alternative Asset Summit → https://www.altassetsummit.com (October 16–17 in Scottsdale, AZ)—Houston Bus Tour Registration: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/houston-self-storage-portfolio-bus-tour-tickets-1591575237379?utm_experiment=test_share_listing&aff=ebdsshios&sg=ed19105646f93b16506dd629ad293a6953b60f4c21904c87d174147bc25617d71f6099f588a1abb3a895fbbeef2578e057d6effbb7d6e124cd35f68fece2d51827faa0c5beabab7ede30c93969 — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you on the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.
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  • #123 - Market Cycles, Debt, and Real Estate Opportunities with Hunter Thompson

    #123 - Market Cycles, Debt, and Real Estate Opportunities with Hunter Thompson
    2025/08/19

    Is now the right time to buy real estate or to hold cash?


    In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Hunter Thompson, founder of Asym Capital and host of Cash Flow Connections, to unpack today’s real estate market. They cover cycles, debt structures, the COVID impact, rising interest rates, and why current distress is more about financing than fundamentals. Whether you’re an LP wondering how to vet a deal or a high-income professional looking for the next big move, this conversation offers clarity on where we stand in 2025 and what smart investors should do next.


    Hunter Thompson is a real estate investor, author, and host of the Cash Flow Connections podcast. With 15 years of experience and billions in transactions, he’s built a reputation as a sharp student of economics and a hands-on operator. From launching Asym Capital to navigating the toughest market cycles, Hunter shares how debt, demographics, and timing shape opportunities for passive investors and active operators alike.



    Show notes:

    (0:00) Intro

    (2:32) Early career and 2010 lessons

    (6:30) Becoming a capital allocator

    (8:01) Evaluating operators and first deals

    (14:02) Understanding real estate market cycles

    (19:30) Interest rates and inflation impact

    (26:09) Debt costs driving distress

    (30:00) Buying opportunities in strong markets

    (43:34) Fixed vs floating rate debt

    (47:14) Outro


    Cash Flow Connections - Real Estate Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cash-flow-connections-real-estate-podcast/id1193877994


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    The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.
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    49 分
  • #122 - How Pilots Use Whole Life Insurance to Fund Investments with Rod Zabriskie

    #122 - How Pilots Use Whole Life Insurance to Fund Investments with Rod Zabriskie
    2025/08/12
    What if your life insurance could help you invest without selling a single asset?Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome back Rod Zabriskie of Money Insights to demystify how whole life insurance can be used as a wealth-building tool. They break down the differences between term and whole life, how cash value grows, and why this strategy avoids risks like margin calls. You’ll hear how pilots are using these policies to fund real estate, reduce taxes, and create a perpetual source of investment capital.Rod Zabriskie, president of the Money Insights Group, specializes in advanced wealth-building strategies using life insurance as a financial tool. With a pragmatic, education-first approach, Rod helps high-income professionals, especially pilots, understand how to leverage whole life policies for liquidity, tax advantages, and long-term returns.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(01:06) Four ways to leverage capital(02:01) Why life insurance can be exciting(05:09) Term vs whole life basics(10:35) How cash value policies work(16:26) Risks of securities-backed loans(20:01) Why whole life avoids margin calls(27:30) How life insurance companies invest(33:16) Using policies as your “cash chamber”(39:02) Paying off loans vs max funding(46:43) Funding ranges and contribution flexibility(49:01) OutroFor a free consultation with the Money Insights Group, go to https://moneyinsightsgroup.com/pilots/ Episodes Mentioned: #47 - https://passiveincomepilots.com/episode/47-innovative-wealth-strategies-from-life-insurance-to-alternative-investing-with-christian-allen-and-rod-zabriskie#70 - https://passiveincomepilots.com/episode/70-leveraging-life-insurance-for-passive-income-with-rod-zabriskie-and-blake-brogan #84 - https://passiveincomepilots.com/episode/84-tax-free-growth-infinite-loans-whole-life-insurance-strategies-for-high-earners #23 - https://passiveincomepilots.com/episode/23-counting-the-cost-the-risks-and-rewards-of-401k-loans-for-pilots — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you on the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.
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  • #121 - Short-Term Rentals, Long-Term Wealth with Pilot Couple Brad Hilton and Aubrey Carlson

    #121 - Short-Term Rentals, Long-Term Wealth with Pilot Couple Brad Hilton and Aubrey Carlson
    2025/08/05
    What if your first home turned into your first big win? Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome Brad Hilton and Aubrey Carlson, a powerhouse pilot couple who turned a VA loan into a cash-flowing real estate business. From renovating a dated beach house to designing destination-worthy cabins in Julian, CA, Brad and Aubrey break down how they scaled a short-term rental empire—without any formal training. Learn how they source properties, design for ROI, automate operations, and balance business with marriage. This episode is packed with real-world strategies, software hacks, and tax tips for pilots and professionals ready to take action.Brad Hilton and Aubrey Carlson are a husband-and-wife team with deep roots in aviation—Aubrey, a former naval aviator, and Brad, a private pilot and entrepreneur. Together, they’ve built a thriving short-term rental business in Southern California, blending design savvy, military strategy, and hands-on grit. Their portfolio now spans multiple markets, with a focus on high-return properties and automation-driven management.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(04:08) STR loophole for W-2 offsets(13:21) How they got into real estate(19:00) The course that changed everything(27:45) Finding high-return STR markets(31:03) Design strategy and hot tub ROI(38:00) DIY vs contractor tradeoffs(46:13) Top software stack for automation(51:03) Building once, automating forever(53:23) OutroConnect with Brad Hilton and Aubrey Carlson:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/saltandskylodgingco Website: https://www.saltandskylodgingco.com Links Mentioned:Minoan: https://minoan.com/join-us?referral_code=2YW3J1CP4876&aid=I0KVIF Hostfully: https://get.hostfully.com/xtb3o3sa28ea Breezeway: https://referral.breezeway.io/l/AUBREYCARL48 White Feather Investments: https://whitefeatherinvestments.com/training — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you on the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.
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    54 分
  • #120 - How to Evaluate Markets, Properties, and Risks in Real Estate with Derrick Harris

    #120 - How to Evaluate Markets, Properties, and Risks in Real Estate with Derrick Harris
    2025/07/29
    What separates a solid real estate deal from a costly mistake? In this episode, hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome Derrick Harris, SVP at Spartan Investment Group, to walk us through the real-world process of evaluating markets, properties, and operational risks. With a portfolio that spans millions of square feet, Derrick shares what works, what doesn’t, and what every investor should know, whether you're going passive or managing properties yourself. From feasibility studies and due diligence to team dynamics and tough lessons learned, this is your inside look at how pros protect investments and build real value.Derrick Harris is the Senior Vice President of Portfolio Management at Spartan Investment Group, overseeing nearly 6 million square feet of self-storage across 15 states. With 25 years of experience in the industry, including a pivotal role at SureGuard Self Storage, Derrick brings unparalleled insight into operations, due diligence, and strategic market evaluation. In this episode, he shares what really makes or breaks a real estate investment behind the scenes.Show notes:(0:00) Intro(04:38) Derrick's start in self-storage(06:08) Lessons from industry legend Chuck Barbo(09:56) Why community engagement matters(15:20) Managing out-of-state properties(18:37) What a feasibility study looks like(21:06) Due diligence: what to inspect(26:33) Developing real estate ‘spidey sense’(30:31) Derrick's toughest property experience(49:01) What to do when due diligence fails(59:30) OutroConnect with Derrick Harris:Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/derrickharrismba24 —If you’re interested in participating, the latest institutional-quality self-storage portfolio is available for investment now at: https://turbinecap.investnext.com/portal/offerings/8449/houston-storage/ — You've found the number one resource for financial education for aviators! Please consider leaving a rating and sharing this podcast with your colleagues in the aviation community, as it can serve as a valuable resource for all those involved in the industry.Remember to subscribe for more insights at PassiveIncomePilots.com! https://passiveincomepilots.com/ Join our growing community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/passivepilotsCheck us out on Instagram @PassiveIncomePilots: https://www.instagram.com/passiveincomepilots/Follow us on X @IncomePilots: https://twitter.com/IncomePilotsGet our updates on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/passive-income-pilots/Do you have questions or want to discuss this episode? Contact us at ask@passiveincomepilots.com See you on the next one!*Legal Disclaimer*The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.
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  • #119 - LLCs, Trusts, and Bulletproof Asset Protection with Adam Kintigh

    #119 - LLCs, Trusts, and Bulletproof Asset Protection with Adam Kintigh
    2025/07/17

    What if your rental property is a lawsuit away from costing you everything?


    Tait Duryea connects with asset protection expert Adam Kintigh of Nevada Corporate Headquarters to break down what every investor should know about shielding wealth. From piercing the corporate veil to choosing between LLCs and real estate privacy trusts, this episode covers real risks, smarter structures, and how to avoid costly mistakes.


    Adam Kintigh is an asset protection strategist with over 24 years of experience, currently with Nevada Corporate Headquarters (NCH). He specializes in forming entities, estate planning, tax and accounting strategies, and business structuring for investors nationwide. Adam is an expert on practical, legally sound frameworks for protecting rental portfolios, drawn from decades of industry knowledge and client success.


    Show notes:

    (0:00) Intro

    (02:15) Most common LLC questions from investors

    (03:06) Guest intro: Adam Kintigh of NCH

    (06:26) Adam’s background and NCH overview

    (10:25) Why Delaware, Nevada, and Wyoming matter

    (13:35) Inside vs. outside liability explained

    (17:15) Piercing the corporate veil risks

    (25:16) What is charging order protection?

    (36:22) Real estate privacy trusts explained

    (44:14) What is fraudulent conveyance?

    (46:15) Bookkeeping for a simplified structure

    (50:53) Outro


    Connect with Adam Kintigh:

    • 📩 Email Adam at: adam@nchinc.com and mention Passive Income Pilots to get started.
    • Website: https://nchinc.com

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    The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.
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  • #118 - The Big Beautiful Tax Bill with Nathan Sosa

    #118 - The Big Beautiful Tax Bill with Nathan Sosa
    2025/07/11

    Get ready to demystify the 2025 Tax Bill.


    Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Nathan Sosa, tax strategist at Hall CPA, to uncover what this sweeping legislation really means for pilots and high-income earners. From the return of 100% bonus depreciation to new deductions for auto loans and overtime, Nathan breaks down exactly who benefits and how. Whether you're building passive income or just want to keep more of what you earn, this is required listening.


    Nathan Sosa is a Certified Public Accountant (CPA) with Hall CPA, a firm specializing in real estate tax strategy. As a seasoned tax strategist, Nathan works closely with high-income professionals and investors to navigate complex tax codes and optimize financial outcomes. With expertise in Opportunity Zones, real estate syndications, and tax planning, Nathan empowers clients with proactive strategies to minimize tax liabilities and build wealth.


    Show notes:

    (0:00) Intro

    (02:53) What changed with the 2025 tax bill

    (05:48) Standard deduction increases and simplifications

    (07:42) How earners under $200k benefit

    (15:41) Bonus depreciation back to 100%

    (18:42) New tax-advantaged Trump accounts for kids

    (25:04) SALT cap raised for higher earners

    (30:00) Qualified Small Business Stock (QSBS) updates

    (34:02) Entitlement spending cuts and political tradeoffs

    (38:15) Tax-free overtime up to $300k AGI

    (46:06) Why this bill could supercharge the economy

    (47:00) Outro


    Connect with Nathan Sosa:

    • Book a Discovery Call with Nathan Sosa: https://bit.ly/HallCPA

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    The content of this podcast is provided solely for educational and informational purposes. The views and opinions expressed are those of the hosts, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson, and do not reflect those of any organization they are associated with, including Turbine Capital or Spartan Investment Group. The opinions of our guests are their own and should not be construed as financial advice. This podcast does not offer tax, legal, or investment advice. Listeners are advised to consult with their own legal or financial counsel and to conduct their own due diligence before making any financial decisions.
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    49 分