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  • #130. Don't Export Your God-Given Mission to Others
    2025/07/01

    Pastor Joshua Hayden has recently authored Remissioning Church, A Field Guide to Bringing a Congregation Back to Life, where he talks about transforming a church from the inside out to bring a new missional presence that brings life and flourishing to the neighborhood.

    Book: Remissioning Church

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • Why the tried and true strategies for church growth not working so well anymore
    • Creative Destruction, Exegeting the Culture or Neighborhood, and Traditioned Innovation
    • Patterns and Stages that a Church Might Experience in Remissioning

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Josh Hayden is the co-founder and co-president of `Iwa Collaborative, which helps leaders fly high and live low as they lead through change processes in their community. He runs remissioning trainings through `Iwa Collaborative across various denominational, non-denominational, and global networks.

    Josh Hayden is the senior pastor at First Baptist Church in Ashland, Virginia. For over 20 years he has worked and led in nonprofit organizations, church plants, and established churches. He has a doctorate in leadership and organizational change from Duke Divinity School and is the author of Remissioning Church and Sacred Hope. He serves on the boards of numerous nonprofits. He and his family live near Richmond, Virginia.

    RELATED LINKS:
    • Iwa Collaborative
    • First Baptist Ashland VA

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    01:51 - Book: Remissioning Church

    02:11 - Don't export your God-given mission to others

    02:48 - Why the tried and true strategies for church growth not working so well anymore

    02:54 - ...what most churches are doing have not produced healthy disciples that produce the fruit of the Spirit

    03:28 - ...churches don't look much different from any other group

    04:30 - ...we have lost the missional impulse to know our neighbors

    06:40 - Major sections of the book: Creative Destruction, Exegeting the Culture or Neighborhood, and Traditioned Innovation

    06:59 - ...Creative Destruction

    08:36 - ...connected to Jesus (Matthew 16 : 24-25 - take up our cross and foloow Jesus)

    10:49 - Exegeting the Church and Neighborhood

    11:55 - ...creating a plan for how to live on mission creatively with God

    14:20 - Traditioned Innovation

    15:18 - ...we have to translate the past into what's next

    18:55 - Patterns and Stages that a Church Might Experience in Remissioning

    19:04 - Free download: www.ivpress.com/Media/Default/Downloads/Excerpts-and-Samples/A1055-Graphic-Image-Download.pdf

    19:14 - ...remissioning change cycle

    19:34 - ...do we have a mission worth dying for?

    19:48 - ...working through pain, disillusionment and being unnerved

    20:40 - ...then comes a moment of repent or resist

    22:24 - ...do we have a mission worth living for?

    27:24 - ...take the necessary time in the wilderness

    31:11 - Common Concerns in Remissioning a Church

    32:04 - Leading Through Remissioning

    36:21 - Favorite Tools

    36:25 - ...exegeting the neighborhood

    37:13 - ...the work of remembering

    39:07 - Remissioning is worth it

    39:54 - Getting in Touch with Pastor Joshua Hayden - iwacollaborative.com

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  • #129. Stop Trying to Revitalize Your Church-- Do This Instead
    2025/06/17

    Josh has recently authored Remissioning Church, A Field Guide to Bringing a Congregation Back to Life, where he talks about transforming a church from the inside out to bring a new missional presence that brings life and flourishing to the neighborhood.

    Book: Remissioning Church

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • How and why congregations might be dying
    • Remissioning vs Revitalizing
    • Inside-out transformation

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Josh Hayden is the co-founder and co-president of `Iwa Collaborative, which helps leaders fly high and live low as they lead through change processes in their community. He runs remissioning trainings through `Iwa Collaborative across various denominational, non-denominational, and global networks.

    Josh Hayden is the senior pastor at First Baptist Church in Ashland, Virginia. For over 20 years he has worked and led in nonprofit organizations, church plants, and established churches. He has a doctorate in leadership and organizational change from Duke Divinity School and is the author of Remissioning Church and Sacred Hope. He serves on the boards of numerous nonprofits. He and his family live near Richmond, Virginia.

    RELATED LINKS:
    • Iwa Collaborative
    • First Baptist Ashland VA

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    00:39 - Introducing Pastor Josh Hayden

    04:49 - How and why congregations might be dying

    05:21 - ...churches in survival mode

    05:38 - ...counting, not reflecting Jesus

    05:59 - ...want people to lead, but rarely invite or train up leaders

    06:33 - ...afraid of conflict, stuck in tradition

    07:02 - How Josh's journey influenced the writing of the book

    08:39 - Established Church vs Church Plant

    10:10 - Exploring the book title: Remissioning Church

    10:59 - ...Remissioning vs Revitalizing

    14:01 - ...Remissioning was not a word that people were using regularly

    15:44 - ...Is it RE-missioning or re-MISSION-ing?

    18:29 - How does church leadership assess if the church should be remissioned?

    18:45 - ...awareness of where the church is in the life cycle

    19:02 - ...spiritual health of the church

    19:10 - ...counting vs measuring

    19:19 - ...honest evaluation

    21:12 - How does the church leadership manage feelings in assessing a church?

    23:40 - ...helping people navigate loss and change

    24:52 - ...embrace conflict

    26:02 - What does a healthy church look like?

    26:04 - ...clear sense of how to make disciples who are good for the community

    26:47 - ...common life with the community

    26:53 - ...see change as God inviting us into a life-death-resurrection journey

    27:20 - ...disciple people inside the church so not to export the mission of God to others

    29:51 - What is the goal of remissioning a church?

    32:08 - What needs to happen for inside-out tranforamtion to take place?

    32:36 - ...people disclipling someone

    33:35 - ...learn to live on mission with God

    34:07 - ...live with more purpose and intention

    34:42 - How and why is discipleship the mission of the chuch?

    35:14 - ...a lot of pastors haven't been discipled

    35:42 - ...not clear on what a mature disciple looks like

    36:51 - ...church-hopping is the result of not having a clear discipleship process

    40:02 - If your church disappeared, would the community notice?

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  • #128. Affection Isn't Weakness: How the Gospel Redefines Masculinity
    2025/06/03

    Dr. Octavio Esqueda, full Professor of Christian Higher Education and Director of the Ph.D. and Ed.D. Programs in Educational Studies at the Talbot School of Theology at Biola University, shares on how the gospel redefines masculinity.

    Dr Esqueda's Website

    Dr Esqueda's Website (Spanish)

    Dr Esqueda's Books

    Dr Esqueda on X.com

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • Mother's Day vs Father's Day in Churches
    • Important Messages to Highlight
    • Character, not Competency

    ABOUT THE GUEST:
    • Octavio Javier Esqueda is a full Professor of Christian Higher Education and Director of the Ph.D. and Ed.D. Programs in Educational Studies at Talbot School of Theology at Biola University. He was born and raised in Guadalajara, México. He graduated with honors with a Licenciatura in Latin American Literature from the University of Guadalajara and two additional diplomas, one in Religion and Society and the second in Journalism. He graduated with honors from Dallas Theological Seminary and completed his Ph.D. in Higher Education at the University of North Texas. He and his wife, Angélica, have two children, Darío and Salma. Dr. Esqueda has several publications on theological education and Christian higher education, practical theology, and literature. Teaching is his passion, and he has had the opportunity to teach in several countries on different academic levels. He is an avid soccer fan.

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    00:37 - Introducing Dr. Octavio Esqueda

    03:19 - Differences in Mother's Day and Father's Day Observances in Churches

    06:07 - How Churches Can Improve in This Area

    06:42 - ...elevate Father's Day like Mother's Day

    06:47 - ...two important messages that need to be highlighted

    07:06 - ......the mothers' affirmation come from being - her love is unconditional

    07:16 - ......when the fathers' affirmation comes from doing - it's never enough

    07:49 - ......many fathers believe that their role is to provide, so they are never with their family

    08:01 - ...but as Christians, our value is in who we are

    08:47 - ...A key aspect of adult motivation is feeling competent

    09:26 - ...but no one teaches us how to be a parent

    10:00 - ...emphasizing the value of who we are gives us the desire to do without fearing failure

    10:42 - Character, not Competency

    11:30 - ...instead of pulling in the cultural norms, bring the gospel out

    12:34 - A Common Problem in Evangelicalism

    12:51 - ...we forget that the whole message is about grace

    13:14 - ...God loves us unconditionally not only at salvation, but for our whole lives

    14:19 - Unique Challenges Faced by Men of Color

    14:48 - ...expression of love and affection are not affirmed

    14:59 - ...or to imitate a model that was absent

    15:07 - ...tell parents how to live a Christian life

    16:43 - ...need to know how and be trained

    17:10 - ..cultural expectations for men

    19:48 - God's Love in the Story of the Prodigal Son

    21:23 - Breaking the Cycle Starts with Us

    23:19 - Contacting Dr Octavio Esqueda: amazon.com | x.com/OctavioEsqueda | LinkedIn

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  • #127. Emotionally Healthy Discipleship: The Theology Behind True Transformation
    2025/05/20

    Pastor Drew Hyun explains how the Christian faith provides a lens through which we can understand the beautiful and disappointing world we live in, while offering the kind of promising hope we long for.

    Book: Beautiful, Disappointing, Hopeful

    Hope Church NYC Website

    Drew Hyun Website

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • Three Types of Books About Christianity
    • Tension that Many Believers Experience
    • Three Deep Practices

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Drew Hyun is the Founder and Lead Pastor of Hope Church NYC, a diverse church with three locations in New York City. Drew is also the Executive Director of Emotionally Healthy Discipleship, an organization that aims to transform church culture through the multiplication of deeply changed pastors and leaders. He regularly speaks at churches, conferences and college campuses throughout the United States and abroad. He is a graduate of UC Berkeley, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (M.Div), and Fuller Theological Seminary (DMin). Drew loves cities, ESPN, and naps, and finds it a restful Sabbath when all three come together. He resides in New York City with his wife Christina and their son David and daughter Avery. Drew is the author of Beautiful, Disappointing, Hopeful: How Gratitude, Grief, and Grace Reflect the Christian Story, available at Amazon, Churchsource, or Barnes and Noble.

    RELATED LINKS:
    • Hope Church NYC Website
    • Drew Hyun Website
    • Emotionally Healthy Discipleship Website

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    00:38 - Introducing Drew Hyun

    03:10 - Drew's Journey to Urban Ministry in NYC

    04:43 - Calling to NYC and Church Planting

    05:38 - Motivation for Writing Book: Beautiful, Disappointing, Hopeful

    06:03 - ...Three Types of Books About Christianity

    07:16 - ...Explain the Christian Faith in Three Simple Memorable Words

    08:12 - ...The Christian faith gives a compelling picture of why both beauty, disappointment, and hope exist

    08:33 - ...Practices of gratitude, grief, and grace so Christians can live a resilient, flourishing life

    08:53 - ...Written for various audiences

    12:34 - Influence of Drew's Father's Call to Ministry

    12:59 - ...Drew is a Christian despite growing up in church

    13:30 - ...Finding Jesus to be true and compelling

    14:05 - ...Reconciliation with his father

    14:37 - Two kinds of grief

    18:07 - Tension that Many Believers Experience

    19:54 - ...the story of the Christian faith starts with a good God creating a beautiful world

    22:24 - ...posture to take from a beautiful world is gratitude

    22:36 - ...but we struggle with gratitude and being alert the goodness of God

    23:25 - ...but the world is also incredibly disappointing

    25:49 - Creation - Fall - Redemption - Restoration

    26:48 - Three Deep Practices: Gratitude, Grief, Grace

    27:19 - ...invitation to live...

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  • #126. Becoming All Things to All People in Order to Save Some
    2025/05/06

    Carl Jamal dedicated his life to serving underserved communities, equipping churches, and empowering individuals through faith-based outreach.

    Our conversation today will center around effective urban ministry—how churches can serve inner-city communities with dignity, navigate challenges, and build lasting relationships. We’ll also explore Carl’s unique approach to ministry through hip-hop, prison rehabilitation, and youth outreach.

    Carl Jamal's Website

    Book Link: Urban Missionary Survival Guide

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • People, Not Projects
    • Do's and Don'ts of Urban Ministry
    • Role of Urban Missionaries in the Church

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Carl Jamal is a dedicated community leader and music educator who has overcome significant personal challenges to empower others. Finding refuge in music during a difficult youth, Carl relocated to Atlanta over ten years ago and committed himself to community outreach and charitable work, earning recognition as a respected leader and volunteer. His passion for hip hop fuels his impactful work in prison rehabilitation and youth outreach programs, where he teaches music production and fosters self-expression. Through his resilience and dedication, Carl shares his wisdom and skills, empowering marginalized communities and inspiring positive change.

    Born and raised in Baltimore, Carl Jamal faced many challenges in their youth as their mother struggled with addiction and father was absent. Despite these obstacles, Carl Jamal found hope and inspiration in music, channeling their faith and creativity into a pathway toward a brighter future.

    After relocating to Atlanta over ten years ago, Carl Jamal dedicated his life to community outreach and charitable work, becoming a respected local leader and volunteer throughout the nation. His passion for hip hop music inspired his life's work in prison rehabilitation, and Youth outreach where he teaches prisoners and at-risk teens the art and technical know-how of music production, writing, and engineering.

    Carl Jamal’s unique approach to hip hop education helped him pioneer a new way to reach and connect with local youths. His workshops and events encourage youth to unleash their creativity through hip hop as a means of self-expression and empowerment.

    Despite the many setbacks and obstacles Carl Jamal encountered in their young life, they persevered with grace, skill, and ingenuity. Now Carl Jamal shares his wisdom, his love of hip hop, and life skills with others, continuing his journey of empowerment and positivity in the world.

    RELATED LINKS:
    • Carl Jamal's Website
    • Book Link: Urban Missionary Survival Guide

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    00:38 - Introducing Carl Jamal Rumsey

    02:38 - How has Carl Jamal's childhood experiences shaped him?

    03:14 - ...visited Atlanta and saw church community and Christ

    04:59 - ...full-time in urban ministry

    05:44 - ...Maverick City Music Initiative

    06:24 - ...dedicated life to be a voice for the voiceless

    06:42 - Importance of Principle: People, Not Projects (Book)

    06:59 - ...church may treat people as a project or a program

    08:24 - Top 10 of Do's and Don'ts of Urban Ministry

    11:31 - ...why are you serving in urban ministry?

    11:53 - Importance of Serving with Dignity

    12:11 - ...Where is your heart?

    12:42 - Role of Urban Missionaries in the Church

    12:57...

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  • #125. Is Traditional Preaching Failing? How to Reach a Post-Christian Culture
    2025/04/22

    Dr. Mark Glanville shared thoughts from his new book, Preaching in a New Key: Crafting Expository Sermons in Post-Christian Neighborhoods and how preaching can adapt to the complexities of faith in our time—especially where traditional assumptions about faith and Scripture no longer hold and where people are seeking relational leadership.

    Dr Mark Glanville's Website

    Book Info: Preaching in a New Key

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • Key Shifts in Preaching
    • Addressing Difficult Bible Verses
    • Drawing from Diverse Traditions and Listening to Diverse Voices

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Dr Mark Glanville works as the Director of the Centre for Missional Leadership at St. Andrews Hall, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada. He is an Old Testament scholar and has written five books, including Improvising Church: Scripture as the Source of Harmony, Rhythm, and Soul and Preaching in a New Key: Crafting Expository Sermons in Post-Christian Neighborhoods.

    Mark’s vocational goal is to research, teach, write, speak, and play music to nourish Christian leaders to creatively reimagine what the church can be and do in post-Christian societies, with the Bible in our hands.

    Mark is also a professional jazz pianist, active on the Vancouver jazz scene. Mark’s podcast is Blue Note Theology, which he hosts from the grand piano.

    RELATED LINKS:
    • Regent College
    • Dr Mark Glanville's Podcast

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    01:06 - Mark's Background and Family

    01:48 - Key Shifts in Preaching

    02:21 - ...trauma-informed preaching

    05:08 - ...holistic health

    14:29 - Addressing DIfficult Biblical Passages

    15:08 - ...people come with beautiful values about justice

    16:17 - ...show the beauty of the Biblical text

    17:11 - ...be patient with the Biblical text

    24:33 - Drawing from Diverse Traditions and Listening to Diverse Voices

    25:47 - ...requires an intercultural lens

    26:17 - ...recontextualize Scripture to people

    28:46 - ...diverse voices in the pulpit

    28:56 - One Key Piece of Advice

    30:18 - Nourish the Community

    34:26 - Getting in Touch with Mark and Finding His Books

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  • #124. The Future of Preaching: 5 Ways to Keep Sermons Relevant Today
    2025/04/08

    Dr. Mark Glanville shared thoughts from his new book, Preaching in a New Key: Crafting Expository Sermons in Post-Christian Neighborhoods and how preaching can adapt to the complexities of faith in our time—especially where traditional assumptions about faith and Scripture no longer hold and where people are seeking relational leadership.

    Dr Mark Glanville's Website

    Book Info: Preaching in a New Key

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • People Relate to Scripture Differently Today than 50 Years Ago
    • Recontextualization in the Culture
    • Shifts in Faith and How People Relate to Scripture

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Dr Mark Glanville works as the Director of the Centre for Missional Leadership at St. Andrews Hall, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada. He is an Old Testament scholar and has written five books, including Improvising Church: Scripture as the Source of Harmony, Rhythm, and Soul and Preaching in a New Key: Crafting Expository Sermons in Post-Christian Neighborhoods.

    Mark’s vocational goal is to research, teach, write, speak, and play music to nourish Christian leaders to creatively reimagine what the church can be and do in post-Christian societies, with the Bible in our hands.

    Mark is also a professional jazz pianist, active on the Vancouver jazz scene. Mark’s podcast is Blue Note Theology, which he hosts from the grand piano.

    RELATED LINKS:
    • Regent College
    • Dr Mark Glanville's Podcast

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    00:38 - Introducing Mark Glanville

    03:19 - Mark's Background and Family

    04:00 - Mark's New Book: Preaching in a New Key

    04:57 - People Relate to Scripture Differently Today than 50 Years Ago

    05:34 - Expository Preaching Has Never Been More Important

    05:55 - The deeper into post-Christian context, people crave to know Christian teaching

    06:48 - Questions for Context and Clarity

    07:18 - ... 1. post-Christian culture

    11:11 - ... 2. Recontextualization in the Culture

    16:05 - An Illustration from Music

    21:42 - Shifts in Faith and How People Relate to Scripture

    21:57 - ...people used to come to church with Bibles under their arms,

    22:04 - ...but now they come with questions on their minds

    22:48 - ...the key might be reversing the direction of flow in preaching

    23:40 - ...showing the beauty of Jesus in Scripture

    23:42 - ...winning people to Jesus, AND to Scripture itself

    28:11 - Contacting Mark and Finding His Books

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  • #123. "I Didn't Feel Judged"
    2025/03/25

    Aimee Huber is the Executive Director of First Choice Women's Resource Centers in New Jersey. She has dedicated over three decades to supporting women and men facing unplanned pregnancies, providing them with counseling, medical services, and practical support.

    Aimee Huber's Website

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • How Pregnancy Resource Centers support men & women
    • How church can support Pregnancy Resource Centers
    • How to talk to someone facing an unplanned pregnancy

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    A pastor's daughter, Aimee Huber serves as the Executive Director of First Choice Women's Resource Centers. First Choice's mission is to protect the unborn by empowering women. Since 1990, she has had the privilege of seeing God grow their ministry in New Jersey from one to five locations, all with medical services. She holds a B.A. from Rutgers University and lives in Central NJ with her husband and two teenage children.

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    00:38 - Introducing Aimee Huber

    03:48 - Inspiration for involvement at First Choice for 33 years

    05:35 - The Mission of First Choice and Services Offered

    05:44 - ...protect the unborn by empowering women

    05:51 - ......prevention

    06:04 - ......intervention

    06:17 - ......restoration

    06:40 - .........walking with the hurt

    08:05 - .........trauma

    09:37 - How Pregnancy Resources Centers Fit Into the Larger Picture of Urban Ministry

    09:46 - ...extension of the local church

    10:32 - Unique Challenges When Faced with an Unplanned Pregnancy in an Urban Setting

    10:55 - ...SOS: S - scared, O - overwhelming pressures, S - strengths

    12:01 - ...Overwhelming pressures are magnified

    12:10 - ......single-parent homes

    12:21 - ......younger siblings

    12:33 - ......housing

    12:42 - ......desire to break generational patterns

    13:21 - Story of a Client Whose Life Was Transformed by First Choice's work

    14:53 - How Can Churches and Urban Ministries Support Pregnancy Resource Centers

    15:07 - ...identify and connect with a local pregnancy center

    15:35 - ......share in church services

    15:50 - ......contribute financially

    16:04 - ......volunteer at a pregnancy center

    16:12 - ......employment

    17:24 - ...hesitancy to speak about pregnancy and abortion

    17:48 - ......present in a caring and compassionate way

    20:00 - What Would You Tell Someone Facing an Unplanned Pregnancy?

    21:35 - ...Speaking Truth in Love and Honesty without Judgment

    21:39 - ...The model is Jesus

    22:12 - ...4.9 out of 5.0 stars on Google Reviews

    22:22 - ...the most frequent comment is, "I didn't feel judged"

    24:20 - Email Aimee at aimee@1stChoice.org

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    28 分