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  • #135. From Presence to Participation: Rethinking the Hybrid Congregation
    2025/09/09

    Michael Huerter (PhD, Baylor University), a pastor at Holmeswood Church in Kansas City, Missouri, shares on addressing the online and in-person church in a hybrid church model.

    Book: The Hybrid Congregation: A Practical Theology of Worship for an Online Era

    Pastor Michael Huerter’s Church

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • Exploring the church's relationship with the internet
    • Engaging the in-person and online communities in the worship service
    • Benefitting from social platforms

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Michael Huerter (PhD, Baylor University) is a pastor at Holmeswood Church in Kansas City, Missouri, where he leads worship and works to build community and connection. As a lifelong church musician and digital native, he is interested in engaging with and contributing to scholarship that bridges the gap between research and practical ministry.

    RELATED LINKS:
    • Pastor Michael Huerter’s Church
    • The Hybrid Congregation: A Practical Theology of Worship for an Online Era

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    00:38 - Introducing Pastor Michael Huerter

    02:30 - Exploring the church's relationship with the internet

    06:07 - Important considerations for live-streaming

    07:59 - ..the church of the future may look different than what we are accustomed to

    08:16 - ...the vast majority of churches do not have the resources to create a live broadcast every week

    09:50 - ...the community is made of people in-person and online

    13:58 - Engaging the in-person and online communities in the worship service

    15:07 - ...involving people who join online in worship leadership

    17:20 - ...creating interactive moments in the worship service to invite conversation or reflection

    21:10 - Benefitting from Social Platforms

    21:25 - ...Focus on people, remember the hybrid nature of our world

    22:16 - ...How can we best minister to the people already connected with our community?

    24:18 - How can we connect with and serve our surrounding community?

    25:02 - Are there people who cannot or will not engage in your church building?

    26:30 - Paying Attention as a spiritual discipline

    30:41 - ...finding ways to deeper attention and connection

    31:30 - ...be discerning in using technology; there's good and bad

    32:36 - The internet: our greatest affliction and greatest hope

    34:04 - Turning affliction to hope

    36:19 - Placing our cultural moment in historical context

    38:38 - Book on InterVarsity Press Academic and Amazon / Email Michael Huerter: michael.huerter@holmeswood.org

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  • #134. Stressed and Weary? How Pastors and Churches Can Actually Cultivate Wellness
    2025/08/26

    Tracie Braylock, a holistic nurse educator and wellness consultant, shares about coping with stress and her new book, Radical Relaxation: Releasing the Stress You Were Never Meant to Carry. Stress is not just a fleeting feeling; it's a silent disruptor, quietly eroding your peace, your health, and your capacity to enjoy life as you know it. Radical Relaxation is your guide to reversing this toxic cycle.

    Radical Relaxation on IVPress

    Tracie Braylock's Website

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • What is stress and what does it do to the human body?
    • Biblical Truths to understand in facing stress
    • How Churches Can Help Promote Wellness and Reduce Stress

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Tracie Braylock is a holistic nurse educator, wellness consultant, and the author of Radical Relaxation. As a former operating room nurse, she advocates for mind, body, spirit well-being, holistic wellness experiences, and liberating relaxation. Her work has been featured in the American Holistic Nurses Association New Beginnings magazine and Proverbs 31 Ministries.

    RELATED LINKS:
    • Radical Relaxation on IVPress
    • Tracie Braylock's Website

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

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    05:14 - What is stress and what does it do to the human body?

    05:24 - ...stress is subjective

    06:14 - ...stress needs to be addressed

    07:11 - Common signs and symptoms of stress

    07:21 - ..physical

    07:38 - ...emotional

    07:46 - ...spiritual

    07:55 - ...behavioral

    08:27 - Biblical Truths to understand in facing stress

    08:55 - ...biblical instructions are designed to protect us

    09:02 - ...reactions in the physical body

    09:26 - ...we are not alone

    09:56 - Holistic Healing: Mind, Body, Spirit

    10:07 - ...understanding that we have mind, body, and spirit

    10:49 - ...God care about every aspect

    11:47 - Preventing burnout and maintaining work-life priorities

    12:05 - ...no one is above sickness and stress

    13:41 - ...do the basics

    14:04 - ...be open to getting additional support

    18:36 - How Churches Can Help Promote Wellness and Reduce Stress

    19:04 - ...look for ways to come together outside of Sunday services

    20:17 - ...remind people

    21:00 - ...care for one another and ourselves

    21:14 - Favorite Ways to Release Stress

    23:12 - Relaxation is Like a Muscle...

    24:51 - Contacting Tracie Braylock - traciebraylock.com

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  • #133. You Haven't Missed Your Moment-- God's Timing is Bigger Than Your Past
    2025/08/12

    Pastor Naeem Fazal shares about how fear sneaks into our lives as worry, uncertainty, or discouragement, clouding our vision for a brighter future. By following Jesus' example, Fazal paints a vivid picture of a life enriched by hope and perseverance amidst adversity.

    Ex-Muslim on Amazon

    Tomorrow Needs You on IVPress

    Pastor Naeem's Church - Mosaic Church Website

    Guest is a frequent contributor, founder, co-founder to/of blog post link

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • Beauty in Healing and Transformation
    • Recognizing and Navigating Fear
    • The Need to Be Needed

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Naeem Fazal is the founding and lead pastor of Mosaic Church in Charlotte, North Carolina. He is a Pakistani, born and raised as a Muslim in Kuwait. He came to the United States shortly after the Gulf War and had a supernatural experience with Christ that changed the course of his life. He was ordained at Seacoast Church in Charleston and is the author of Ex-Muslim and Tomorrow Needs You. Naeem and his wife, Ashley, have two children.

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    00:38 - Welcome Back, Pastor Naeem Fazal

    02:11 - God Takes Naeem from a Fearful Past to a Beautiful Future

    03:07 - ...traumatic experiences

    03:59 - ..."No one needs me..."

    05:07 - ...a lie from the enemy

    05:48 - Beauty in Healing and Transformation

    06:16 - ...connection to what we feel is beautiful

    06:48 - ...the essence of beauty is love

    08:07 - ...we are created with love and are beautiful

    08:28 - ...religion vs perfect love

    11:07 - ...put a joy before you to endure your cross

    11:49 - Recognizing Fear

    12:07 - ... the symptoms of fear

    14:18 - ...needing to feel that you are in control

    15:24 - ...high or volatile emotions

    15:32 - Navigating Fear

    15:44 - Choosing Beauty Over Fear

    16:05 - ...put a leash on fear

    19:16 - Difficulty in Cultivating Joy When Gripped by Fear

    19:44 - ...kindess and gratitude

    23:15 - Surrounding Ourselves with Positive Influences

    23:57 - ...set good boundaries

    26:14 - Reframing Failure and Rejection as Steppingstones

    28:53 - The Need to Be Needed

    29:24 - ..people want to be significant

    31:23 - Encouraging Someone Who Feel He Has "Missed" Tomorrow

    33:38 - Contacting Pastor Naeem Fazal and Finding His Books

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    38 分
  • #132. Ex-Muslim: A Dangerous Prayer and A Life Transformed
    2025/07/29

    Pastor Naeem Fazal shares his story about how Jesus revealed Himself to a young, brash, Pakistani Muslim. But He didn’t just reveal Himself; He turned Naeem’s world upside down.

    Ex-Muslim on Amazon

    Tomorrow Needs You on IVPress

    Pastor Naeem's Church - Mosaic Church Website

    Guest is a frequent contributor, founder, co-founder to/of blog post link

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • Ex-Muslim - testimony of encounter with Christ
    • Three components to sharing the gospel with Muslims
    • Common mistakes that Christians make in witnessing to Muslims

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Naeem Fazal is the founding and lead pastor of Mosaic Church in Charlotte, North Carolina. He is a Pakistani, born and raised as a Muslim in Kuwait. He came to the United States shortly after the Gulf War and had a supernatural experience with Christ that changed the course of his life. He was ordained at Seacoast Church in Charleston and is the author of Ex-Muslim and Tomorrow Needs You. Naeem and his wife, Ashley, have two children.

    RELATED LINKS:
    • Heart for Muslims – link to specific page if mentioned in episode

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    00:39 - Introducing Pastor Naeem Fazal

    04:24 - Book: Ex-Muslim - testimony of encounter with Christ

    06:07 - ...treason

    08:03 - ..."intoxicated" with peace

    09:05 - ...God pursues humanity

    09:33 - ...demonic presence

    11:27 - ...brother tells him about spiritual warfare

    12:05 - ...only Jesus has authority over demons

    13:29 - ..."I am Jesus and your life is not your own"

    14:47 - ...woke knowing that he was supposed to be in ministry

    15:02 - ...led siblings and his father to Christ

    15:41 - God has used "extraordinary means" to guide Naeem's life

    16:16 - ...coming to Christ was so different from that of other Christians around him

    16:46 - ...easy to walk away from a belief or faith, but harder to walk away from a person

    17:54 - ...miracles in education

    19:06 - ...seeing supernatural things in siblings' lives

    22:06 - Specific expectations from Muslims or Christians

    22:26 - ...didn't understand that he was considered a traitor by Muslims

    24:25 - ...some people did not believe that he is a Christian

    26:57 - Three components to sharing the gospel with Muslims

    27:14 - ...knowledge

    29:07 - ...emotional connection

    30:51 - ...spiritual awareness

    32:22 - Common mistakes that Christians make in witnessing to Muslims

    32:56 - ...comparing religion to religion

    36:06 - ...arguing Bible vs Koran

    38:20 - ...Jesus doesn't tell us to defend Him; He said to share the gospel and live it out

    39:02 - What can churches do to partner with organizations that reach out to Muslims?

    41:51 - ...ask ourselves about the prejudice that we might carry

    43:16 - ...find an organization or adopt a mosque

    46:22 - Hope for the Effect of Book, Ex-Muslim

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  • #131. Hope Dealer on the Block: Amy Williams' Mission to Love the Forgotten
    2025/07/15

    Youth ministry veteran Amy Williams ministers to teens involved in gangs and those lost in the criminal justice system with a key strategy of life-on-life mentoring.

    Amy Willliams' Website

    Worth Seeing: Viewing Others Through God’s Eyes

    Amy Williams on IVPress

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • Seeing People “through the lens of God” in Daily Interactions and Decision-Making
    • Meaningful Inclusion with At-Risk Youth
    • Learning More from These Youths than Any Other Group

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Youth ministry veteran Amy Williams ministers to teens involved in gangs and those lost in the criminal justice system with a key strategy of life-on-life mentoring. As a certified gang intervention specialist, she heard God's call to move into a Latino gang neighborhood in Chicago's Humboldt Park community to be a "Hope Dealer" doing street outreach and walking life with young people on her block. Amy is project coordinator at New Life Centers, bringing in restorative justice programming to youth at juvenile prisons. Amy has been a youth pastor, a reentry coordinator, and a youth mentor and advocate. She is a graduate of both University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and National Louis University. She resides in Chicago and loves salsa dancing and is a true beach baby.

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    00:38 - Introducing Amy Williams

    04:58 - Amy's inspiration to work with high-risk youth

    05:58 - ...deepest pain can become greatest passion

    06:41 - ...pull for the underdog

    07:10 - Seeing People “through the lens of God” in Daily Interactions and Decision-Making

    07:23 - ...evaluate ability to see people through the lens of God

    07:58 - ...seeing the value and worth of young people

    08:25 - ...God created them for a purpose

    09:04 - Meaningful Inclusion with At-Risk Youth

    09:29 - ...moving from being watched to being seen

    10:05 - ...inviting them into a space where they should already be invited to

    10:28 - Justice and Mercy

    10:54 - ...the call is to serve both the harmed and the harm-doer

    11:21 - ...spirit of mercy

    11:48 - ...not "What's wrong with you?" but "What happened to you?"

    12:19 - ...compassion for both

    14:10 - ...understanding but not agreeing

    14:56 - ...opportunity to change the direction of kids' lives

    16:13 - ...hope that her book would inform us about the issues and help turn compassion into action

    16:41 - Learning More from These Youths than Any Other Group

    19:11 - The Need to Belong

    20:42 - Doing Better

    21:23 - ...include people who are involved in the situation

    22:13 - ...create spaces for the voices

    24:24 - What keeps you going after decades of such intense work?

    25:28 - ...God-given work

    25:53 - ...community of support

    26:22 - ...lost too many young people-- someone is praying for help

    27:59 - Give our young people a chance

    28:37 - Getting in touch with Amy Williams: ahopedealer.org

    29:05 - Book on ivpress.com

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    31 分
  • #130. Don't Export Your God-Given Mission to Others
    2025/07/01

    Pastor Joshua Hayden has recently authored Remissioning Church, A Field Guide to Bringing a Congregation Back to Life, where he talks about transforming a church from the inside out to bring a new missional presence that brings life and flourishing to the neighborhood.

    Book: Remissioning Church

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • Why the tried and true strategies for church growth not working so well anymore
    • Creative Destruction, Exegeting the Culture or Neighborhood, and Traditioned Innovation
    • Patterns and Stages that a Church Might Experience in Remissioning

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Josh Hayden is the co-founder and co-president of `Iwa Collaborative, which helps leaders fly high and live low as they lead through change processes in their community. He runs remissioning trainings through `Iwa Collaborative across various denominational, non-denominational, and global networks.

    Josh Hayden is the senior pastor at First Baptist Church in Ashland, Virginia. For over 20 years he has worked and led in nonprofit organizations, church plants, and established churches. He has a doctorate in leadership and organizational change from Duke Divinity School and is the author of Remissioning Church and Sacred Hope. He serves on the boards of numerous nonprofits. He and his family live near Richmond, Virginia.

    RELATED LINKS:
    • Iwa Collaborative
    • First Baptist Ashland VA

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    01:51 - Book: Remissioning Church

    02:11 - Don't export your God-given mission to others

    02:48 - Why the tried and true strategies for church growth not working so well anymore

    02:54 - ...what most churches are doing have not produced healthy disciples that produce the fruit of the Spirit

    03:28 - ...churches don't look much different from any other group

    04:30 - ...we have lost the missional impulse to know our neighbors

    06:40 - Major sections of the book: Creative Destruction, Exegeting the Culture or Neighborhood, and Traditioned Innovation

    06:59 - ...Creative Destruction

    08:36 - ...connected to Jesus (Matthew 16 : 24-25 - take up our cross and foloow Jesus)

    10:49 - Exegeting the Church and Neighborhood

    11:55 - ...creating a plan for how to live on mission creatively with God

    14:20 - Traditioned Innovation

    15:18 - ...we have to translate the past into what's next

    18:55 - Patterns and Stages that a Church Might Experience in Remissioning

    19:04 - Free download: www.ivpress.com/Media/Default/Downloads/Excerpts-and-Samples/A1055-Graphic-Image-Download.pdf

    19:14 - ...remissioning change cycle

    19:34 - ...do we have a mission worth dying for?

    19:48 - ...working through pain, disillusionment and being unnerved

    20:40 - ...then comes a moment of repent or resist

    22:24 - ...do we have a mission worth living for?

    27:24 - ...take the necessary time in the wilderness

    31:11 - Common Concerns in Remissioning a Church

    32:04 - Leading Through Remissioning

    36:21 - Favorite Tools

    36:25 - ...exegeting the neighborhood

    37:13 - ...the work of remembering

    39:07 - Remissioning is worth it

    39:54 - Getting in Touch with Pastor Joshua Hayden - iwacollaborative.com

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  • #129. Stop Trying to Revitalize Your Church-- Do This Instead
    2025/06/17

    Josh has recently authored Remissioning Church, A Field Guide to Bringing a Congregation Back to Life, where he talks about transforming a church from the inside out to bring a new missional presence that brings life and flourishing to the neighborhood.

    Book: Remissioning Church

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • How and why congregations might be dying
    • Remissioning vs Revitalizing
    • Inside-out transformation

    ABOUT THE GUEST:

    Josh Hayden is the co-founder and co-president of `Iwa Collaborative, which helps leaders fly high and live low as they lead through change processes in their community. He runs remissioning trainings through `Iwa Collaborative across various denominational, non-denominational, and global networks.

    Josh Hayden is the senior pastor at First Baptist Church in Ashland, Virginia. For over 20 years he has worked and led in nonprofit organizations, church plants, and established churches. He has a doctorate in leadership and organizational change from Duke Divinity School and is the author of Remissioning Church and Sacred Hope. He serves on the boards of numerous nonprofits. He and his family live near Richmond, Virginia.

    RELATED LINKS:
    • Iwa Collaborative
    • First Baptist Ashland VA

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    00:39 - Introducing Pastor Josh Hayden

    04:49 - How and why congregations might be dying

    05:21 - ...churches in survival mode

    05:38 - ...counting, not reflecting Jesus

    05:59 - ...want people to lead, but rarely invite or train up leaders

    06:33 - ...afraid of conflict, stuck in tradition

    07:02 - How Josh's journey influenced the writing of the book

    08:39 - Established Church vs Church Plant

    10:10 - Exploring the book title: Remissioning Church

    10:59 - ...Remissioning vs Revitalizing

    14:01 - ...Remissioning was not a word that people were using regularly

    15:44 - ...Is it RE-missioning or re-MISSION-ing?

    18:29 - How does church leadership assess if the church should be remissioned?

    18:45 - ...awareness of where the church is in the life cycle

    19:02 - ...spiritual health of the church

    19:10 - ...counting vs measuring

    19:19 - ...honest evaluation

    21:12 - How does the church leadership manage feelings in assessing a church?

    23:40 - ...helping people navigate loss and change

    24:52 - ...embrace conflict

    26:02 - What does a healthy church look like?

    26:04 - ...clear sense of how to make disciples who are good for the community

    26:47 - ...common life with the community

    26:53 - ...see change as God inviting us into a life-death-resurrection journey

    27:20 - ...disciple people inside the church so not to export the mission of God to others

    29:51 - What is the goal of remissioning a church?

    32:08 - What needs to happen for inside-out tranforamtion to take place?

    32:36 - ...people disclipling someone

    33:35 - ...learn to live on mission with God

    34:07 - ...live with more purpose and intention

    34:42 - How and why is discipleship the mission of the chuch?

    35:14 - ...a lot of pastors haven't been discipled

    35:42 - ...not clear on what a mature disciple looks like

    36:51 - ...church-hopping is the result of not having a clear discipleship process

    40:02 - If your church disappeared, would the community notice?

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  • #128. Affection Isn't Weakness: How the Gospel Redefines Masculinity
    2025/06/03

    Dr. Octavio Esqueda, full Professor of Christian Higher Education and Director of the Ph.D. and Ed.D. Programs in Educational Studies at the Talbot School of Theology at Biola University, shares on how the gospel redefines masculinity.

    Dr Esqueda's Website

    Dr Esqueda's Website (Spanish)

    Dr Esqueda's Books

    Dr Esqueda on X.com

    WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
    • Mother's Day vs Father's Day in Churches
    • Important Messages to Highlight
    • Character, not Competency

    ABOUT THE GUEST:
    • Octavio Javier Esqueda is a full Professor of Christian Higher Education and Director of the Ph.D. and Ed.D. Programs in Educational Studies at Talbot School of Theology at Biola University. He was born and raised in Guadalajara, México. He graduated with honors with a Licenciatura in Latin American Literature from the University of Guadalajara and two additional diplomas, one in Religion and Society and the second in Journalism. He graduated with honors from Dallas Theological Seminary and completed his Ph.D. in Higher Education at the University of North Texas. He and his wife, Angélica, have two children, Darío and Salma. Dr. Esqueda has several publications on theological education and Christian higher education, practical theology, and literature. Teaching is his passion, and he has had the opportunity to teach in several countries on different academic levels. He is an avid soccer fan.

    TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

    00:37 - Introducing Dr. Octavio Esqueda

    03:19 - Differences in Mother's Day and Father's Day Observances in Churches

    06:07 - How Churches Can Improve in This Area

    06:42 - ...elevate Father's Day like Mother's Day

    06:47 - ...two important messages that need to be highlighted

    07:06 - ......the mothers' affirmation come from being - her love is unconditional

    07:16 - ......when the fathers' affirmation comes from doing - it's never enough

    07:49 - ......many fathers believe that their role is to provide, so they are never with their family

    08:01 - ...but as Christians, our value is in who we are

    08:47 - ...A key aspect of adult motivation is feeling competent

    09:26 - ...but no one teaches us how to be a parent

    10:00 - ...emphasizing the value of who we are gives us the desire to do without fearing failure

    10:42 - Character, not Competency

    11:30 - ...instead of pulling in the cultural norms, bring the gospel out

    12:34 - A Common Problem in Evangelicalism

    12:51 - ...we forget that the whole message is about grace

    13:14 - ...God loves us unconditionally not only at salvation, but for our whole lives

    14:19 - Unique Challenges Faced by Men of Color

    14:48 - ...expression of love and affection are not affirmed

    14:59 - ...or to imitate a model that was absent

    15:07 - ...tell parents how to live a Christian life

    16:43 - ...need to know how and be trained

    17:10 - ..cultural expectations for men

    19:48 - God's Love in the Story of the Prodigal Son

    21:23 - Breaking the Cycle Starts with Us

    23:19 - Contacting Dr Octavio Esqueda: amazon.com | x.com/OctavioEsqueda | LinkedIn

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    26 分