Josh has recently authored Remissioning Church, A Field Guide to Bringing a Congregation Back to Life, where he talks about transforming a church from the inside out to bring a new missional presence that brings life and flourishing to the neighborhood.

Book: Remissioning Church

1. How and why congregations might be dying
2. Remissioning vs Revitalizing
3. Inside-out transformation

Josh Hayden is the co-founder and co-president of `Iwa Collaborative, which helps leaders fly high and live low as they lead through change processes in their community. He runs remissioning trainings through `Iwa Collaborative across various denominational, non-denominational, and global networks.

Josh Hayden is the senior pastor at First Baptist Church in Ashland, Virginia. For over 20 years he has worked and led in nonprofit organizations, church plants, and established churches. He has a doctorate in leadership and organizational change from Duke Divinity School and is the author of Remissioning Church and Sacred Hope. He serves on the boards of numerous nonprofits. He and his family live near Richmond, Virginia.

1. Iwa Collaborative
2. First Baptist Ashland VA

01:22 - Introducing Pastor Josh Hayden

05:32 - How and why congregations might be dying

06:04 - ...churches in survival mode

06:21 - ...counting, not reflecting Jesus

06:42 - ...want people to lead, but rarely invite or train up leaders

07:16 - ...afraid of conflict, stuck in tradition

07:45 - How Josh's journey influenced the writing of the book

09:22 - Established church vs church plant

10:53 - Exploring the book title: Remissioning Church

11:42 - ...Remissioning vs Revitalizing

14:44 - ...Remissioning was not a word that people were using regularly

16:27 - ...Is it RE-missioning or re-MISSION-ing?

19:12 - How does church leadership assess if the church should be remissioned?

19:28 - ...awareness of where the church is in the life cycle

19:45 - ...spiritual health of the church

19:53 - ...counting vs measuring

20:02 - ...honest evaluation

21:55 - How does the church leadership manage feelings in assessing a church?

24:24 - ...helping people navigate loss and change

25:35 - ...embrace conflict

26:45 - What does a healthy church look like?

26:47 - ...clear sense of how to make disciples who are good for the community

27:30 - ...common life with the community

27:36 - ...see change as God inviting us into a life-death-resurrection journey

28:03 - ...disciple people inside the church so not to export the mission of God to others

30:35 - What is the goal of remissioning a church?

32:51 - What needs to happen for inside-out transformation to take place?

33:19 - ...people discipling someone

34:18 - ...learn to live on mission with God

34:50 - ...live with more purpose and intention

35:25 - How and why is discipleship the mission of the church?

35:57 - ...a...

Brandon has extensive experience living and serving among least-reached peoples in the New York City metropolitan area. His time spent in the Middle East cultivated a deep passion for diaspora Muslims residing in gateway cities.

Brandon's website

• Christians may be hesitate or fearful about engaging with Muslim neighbors
• Muslims might not have significant relationship with Christians
• Heart for Muslims as a Resource

Brandon lives and serves least-reached peoples in the New York City metropolitan area. After spending significant time in the Middle East, he grew to have hearts for diaspora Muslims living in gateway cities. Brandon is the Executive Director of Heart For Muslims, a mission initiative with a passion to love Muslims, equip the Body of Christ, and connect people for gospel-centered service

• Heart for Muslims

03:17 - Calling to minister to Muslims

04:33 - Christians may be hesitate or fearful about engaging with Muslim neighbors

05:07 - ...seek out Heart for Muslims and tour a Muslim neighborhood

07:30 - ...Vision and Mission trip

07:55 - ...Muslims can be in the US for a long time and not have a significant relationship with a Christians

12:55 - A Story of a Meaningful Relationship Illustrates the Power of Faithful Presence in Muslim Community

20:05 - Engaging with Muslims during Ramadan

25:10 - Getting involved with Heart for Muslims

28:39 - HeartForMuslims.com

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Brandon has extensive experience living and serving among least-reached peoples in the New York City metropolitan area. His time spent in the Middle East cultivated a deep passion for diaspora Muslims residing in gateway cities.

Brandon's website

• The Gap Between the Christian and Muslim Communities
• Most Effective Ways for Churches and Believers to Serve Muslims
• Heart for Muslims as a Resource

Brandon lives and serves least-reached peoples in the New York City metropolitan area. After spending significant time in the Middle East, he grew to have hearts for diaspora Muslims living in gateway cities. Brandon is the Executive Director of Heart For Muslims, a mission initiative with a passion to love Muslims, equip the Body of Christ, and connect people for gospel-centered service

• Heart for Muslims

01:21 - Introducing Brandon

03:25 - Calling to minister to Muslims

04:39 - Journey from the Middle East to NYC and Approach to Ministry

05:32 - ...interdenominational seminary

05:43 - ...international students

05:56 - ...studying abroad at Jerusalem University

06:52 - ...teaching ESL at Bethlehem Bible College

07:03 - ...connecting point on seeing all people as God's creation

07:57 - ...the only difference was knowing Jesus

08:39 - ...journey of repentance

09:13 - ...began feeling a calling to serve full-time in the Middle East

10:22 - ...heard of work with displaced Muslims in North America

11:19 - ...neighborhood in northern New Jersey and it's like Palestine

13:46 - ...very limited concerted effort to reach Muslims around NYC with the gospel

14:11 - ...freedom to share the gospel in NY/NJ that's not available in the Middle East

15:10 - ...protection for Muslims who accept Jesus as Lord and Savior

15:34 - Executive Director of Heart for Muslims

16:18 - ...vision for the future of the Heart for Muslims conference

18:07 - The gap between the Christian and Muslim communities

19:11 - Most effective ways for churches and believers to serve Muslims

19:44 - ...lack of knowledge

20:03 - ...focus on a particular local people group

20:40 - ...Step 1: Pray about whom to engage

22:10 - ...Step 2: Who is already doing work among these people?

22:40 - ...the Lord will reveal needs

23:59 - ...Step 3: connect your life to theirs

24:50 - ...Connect and Live with People

25:51 - ...Heart for Muslims as a resource

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Carl Jamal dedicated his life to serving underserved communities, equipping churches, and empowering individuals through faith-based outreach.

Our conversation today will center around effective urban ministry—how churches can serve inner-city communities with dignity, navigate challenges, and build lasting relationships. We’ll also explore Carl’s unique approach to ministry through hip-hop, prison rehabilitation, and youth outreach.

Carl Jamal's Website

Book Link: Urban Missionary Survival Guide

• People, Not Projects
• Do's and Don'ts of Urban Ministry
• Role of Urban Missionaries in the Church

Carl Jamal is a dedicated community leader and music educator who has overcome significant personal challenges to empower others. Finding refuge in music during a difficult youth, Carl relocated to Atlanta over ten years ago and committed himself to community outreach and charitable work, earning recognition as a respected leader and volunteer. His passion for hip hop fuels his impactful work in prison rehabilitation and youth outreach programs, where he teaches music production and fosters self-expression. Through his resilience and dedication, Carl shares his wisdom and skills, empowering marginalized communities and inspiring positive change.

Born and raised in Baltimore, Carl Jamal faced many challenges in their youth as their mother struggled with addiction and father was absent. Despite these obstacles, Carl Jamal found hope and inspiration in music, channeling their faith and creativity into a pathway toward a brighter future.

After relocating to Atlanta over ten years ago, Carl Jamal dedicated his life to community outreach and charitable work, becoming a respected local leader and volunteer throughout the nation. His passion for hip hop music inspired his life's work in prison rehabilitation, and Youth outreach where he teaches prisoners and at-risk teens the art and technical know-how of music production, writing, and engineering.

Carl Jamal’s unique approach to hip hop education helped him pioneer a new way to reach and connect with local youths. His workshops and events encourage youth to unleash their creativity through hip hop as a means of self-expression and empowerment.

Despite the many setbacks and obstacles Carl Jamal encountered in their young life, they persevered with grace, skill, and ingenuity. Now Carl Jamal shares his wisdom, his love of hip hop, and life skills with others, continuing his journey of empowerment and positivity in the world.

• Carl Jamal's Website
• Book Link: Urban Missionary Survival Guide

01:21 - Introducing Carl Jamal Rumsey

03:21 - How has Carl Jamal's childhood experiences shaped him?

03:57 - ...visited Atlanta and saw church community and Christ

05:43 - ...full-time in urban ministry

06:27 - ...Maverick City Music Initiative

07:07 - ... dedicated life to be a voice for the voiceless

07:25 - Importance of Principle: People, Not Projects (Book)

07:42 - ...church may treat people as a project or a program

09:07 - Top 10 of Do's and Don'ts of Urban Ministry

12:14 - ...why are you serving in urban ministry?

12:36 - Importance of Serving with Dignity

12:54 - ...Where is your heart?

13:25 - Role of Urban Missionaries in the Church

13:40 - ...use urban interests

14:13 - ...be a missionary anywhere

14:20 - ...be mission -minded

15:39 - ...examples of using...

Youth ministry veteran Amy Williams ministers to teens involved in gangs and those lost in the criminal justice system with a key strategy of life-on-life mentoring.

Amy Williams' Website

Worth Seeing: Viewing Others Through God’s Eyes

Amy Williams on IVPress

• Seeing People “through the lens of God” in Daily Interactions and Decision-Making
• Meaningful Inclusion with At-Risk Youth
• Learning More from These Youths than Any Other Group

Youth ministry veteran Amy Williams ministers to teens involved in gangs and those lost in the criminal justice system with a key strategy of life-on-life mentoring. As a certified gang intervention specialist, she heard God's call to move into a Latino gang neighborhood in Chicago's Humboldt Park community to be a "Hope Dealer" doing street outreach and walking life with young people on her block. Amy is project coordinator at New Life Centers, bringing in restorative justice programming to youth at juvenile prisons. Amy has been a youth pastor, a reentry coordinator, and a youth mentor and advocate. She is a graduate of both University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and National Louis University. She resides in Chicago and loves salsa dancing and is a true beach baby.

01:22 - Introducing Amy Williams

05:42 - Amy's inspiration to work with high-risk youth

06:42 - ...deepest pain can become greatest passion

07:25 - ...pull for the underdog

07:54 - Seeing People “through the lens of God” in Daily Interactions and Decision-Making

08:07 - ...evaluate ability to see people through the lens of God

08:42 - ...seeing the value and worth of young people

09:09 - ...God created them for a purpose

09:48 - Meaningful Inclusion with At-Risk Youth

10:13 - ...moving from being watched to being seen

10:49 - ...inviting them into a space where they should already be invited to

11:12 - Justice and Mercy

11:37 - ...the call is to serve both the harmed and the harm-doer

12:05 - ...spirit of mercy

12:31 - ...not "What's wrong with you?" but "What happened to you?"

13:02 - ...compassion for both

14:54 - ...understanding but not agreeing

15:40 - ...opportunity to chnage the direction of kids' lives

16:57 - ...hope that her book would inform us about the issues and help turn compassion into action

17:25 - Learning More from These Youths than Any Other Group

19:55 - The Need to Belong

21:26 - Doing Better

22:07 - ...include people who are involved in the situation

22:57 - ...create spaces for the voices

25:08 - What keeps you going after decades of such intense work?

26:12 - ...God-given work

26:37 - ...community of support

27:06 - ...lost too many young people-- someone is praying for help

28:43 - Give our young people a chance

29:21 - Getting in touch with Amy Williams: ahopedealer.org

29:49 - Book on ivpress.com

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Dr Todd Korpi, author of AI Goes to Church, unpacks one of the most significant technological advancements of our time—artificial intelligence—and what it means for the ministry. More than just another tech fad, AI presents both profound challenges and extraordinary opportunities for the church.

Dr Todd Korpi's Website

Dr Todd Korpi on IVPress

Book: AI Goes to Church

• AI and the Bible
• Theological Ethics Principles
• Church Leadership Starting the Conversation on AI

Todd Korpi (DMiss, Fuller Theological Seminary) is a pastor, missiologist, and church consultant. He is dean of digital ministry programs at Ascent College, assistant professor of Christian Leadership at Fuller Theological Seminary, and works in several capacities at OneHope whose mission is to affect destiny by providing God’s Word to all the children and youth of the world. He also serves as the lead researcher of the Digital Mission Consortia, a collaborative research initiative exploring the frontier of digital ministry. Todd is the author of Your Daughters Shall Prophesy and The Life-Giving Spirit as well as his new book, AI Goes to Church.

• Dr Todd Korpi's Website
• Dr Todd Korpi on IVPress
• Book: AI Goes to Church

00:39 - Introducing Dr Todd Korpi

01:32 - AI in the Bible?

01:56 - ...AI and technology will challenge how Christians approach the Bible

04:49 - ...How vs Why

05:52 - ...Knowledge vs Wisdom

06:45 - ...Stewardship of Creation

08:07 - Human Relationship to AI Bots

08:38 - ...human feelings and dynamics

10:33 - ...look at our origin story - God created humans in His image

16:03 - Theological Ethics Principles

16:27 - ...already discussed: image of God, goodness of creation, mission of God

16:42 - ...inaugurated eschatological hope

18:29 - ...power and kingdom

19:17 - ...human connection and culture care

20:37 - ...citizenship and loyalty

21:24 - ...mysterium tremendum ("holy awe")

22:11 - ...shaping of the inner life

22:31 - ...the economy of the kingdom

22:40 - ...our prophetic responsibility

23:15 - Church Leadership Starting the Conversation on AI

23:26 - ...start small

24:00 - ...do what is appropriate for the congregation

24:27 - ...learn to prompt well on ChatGPT

24:51 - ...automate the boring bits and protect the good stuff

26:19 - ...prioritize the in-person things

27:03 - ...regularly assess what is lost, left behind, or missing

27:26 - ...operate in transparency and community

30:25 - Why write a book on AI?

30:47 - ...identity issues

32:12 - ...AI having more impact than social media

32:25 - ...take the mantle about how the AI and church can protect creation, culture, relationships

33:57 - Book: amazon.com | Dr Todd Korpi: toddkorpi.com or @toddkorpi

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Dr Todd Korpi, author of AI Goes to Church, unpacks one of the most significant technological advancements of our time—artificial intelligence—and what it means for the ministry. More than just another tech fad, AI presents both profound challenges and extraordinary opportunities for the church.

Dr Todd Korpi's Website

Dr Todd Korpi on IVPress

Book: AI Goes to Church

• What is AI? What can it do and cannot do at the present time?
• Do churches hesitate in using AI and technology?
• How is AI technology currently used in the church?

Todd Korpi (DMiss, Fuller Theological Seminary) is a pastor, missiologist, and church consultant. He is dean of digital ministry programs at Ascent College, assistant professor of Christian Leadership at Fuller Theological Seminary, and works in several capacities at OneHope whose mission is to affect destiny by providing God’s Word to all the children and youth of the world. He also serves as the lead researcher of the Digital Mission Consortia, a collaborative research initiative exploring the frontier of digital ministry. Todd is the author of Your Daughters Shall Prophesy and The Life-Giving Spirit as well as his new book, AI Goes to Church.

• Dr Todd Korpi's Website
• Dr Todd Korpi on IVPress
• Book: AI Goes to Church

00:40 - Introducing Dr Todd Korpi

03:29 - Science fiction shapes journey to technology

04:03 - ...science fiction conveys possibilities

06:27 - ...read our culture in the present moment by the popular culture

07:55 - Do churches hesitate in using AI and technology?

08:14 - ...global church & evangelism

10:20 - ...local church

11:04 - ...replacement by digital technology

15:48 - How is AI technology currently used in the church and other avenues for reaching people with the gospel?

17:36 - ...content curation and utilization

19:32 - ...translation

21:06 - ...automating the administrative, backend work

23:57 - What is AI? What can it do and cannot do at the present time?

25:15 - ...AI in the 1950's and the Turing test

25:48 - ...rapid development in the last 20 years

26:05 - ...Google, streaming service, social media, recommendations...

27:06 - ...generative AI

27:26 - ...theories on singularity event

28:24 - ...right now, AI is fundamentally a mirror

29:42 - ...cautious optimism

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Denise Daniels and Elaine Howard Ecklund co-authored a book, Working for Better: A New Approach to Faith at Work. It addresses a world where workplaces are becoming increasingly diverse with a timely guide for Christians navigating the modern faith-at-work landscape.

Book: Working for Better (IVPress link)

Book: Working for Better (amazon.com link)

Wheaton College

• Key Tensions of Faith at Work
• Inequalities Among Minorities
• Respecting Other Faiths Without Compromise

Denise Daniels (PhD, Organizational Behavior, University of Washington) is Hudson T. Harrison Professor of Entrepreneurship at Wheaton College. Her scholarly interests include meaningful work, religion in the workplace, Sabbath, leadership, gender, and motivation. She has written over 50 academic articles and book chapters, and co-authored several books including, Working in the Presence of God (Hendrickson); Religion in a Changing Workplace (Oxford University Press); and Working for Better: A New Approach to Faith at Work (InterVarsity Press). She is on the board of a fintech company and also serves on the board of the Theology of Work Project (theologyofwork.org).

• Book: Working for Better (IVPress link)
• Book: Working for Better (amazon.com link)
• Wheaton College

00:37 - Introducing Dr Denise Daniels

02:42 - Inspiration for researching faith tin the workplace

02:53 - ...exhausted from work and family - looked at Sabbath

04:20 - ...Book: Working for Better

06:17 - Understanding the Lack of Sabbath

07:52 - Summary of the Findings of the Research

08:11 - ...people want to be their whole self at work

09:51 - Surprising Conclusions from the Research

10:15 - ...how many people were interested in engaging their faith at work

10:36 - ...how few people viewed their work as a calling

11:48 - Key Tensions of Faith at Work

12:15 - ...Sacred / Secular Divide

12:46 - ...Individual / Systemic Approach

13:03 - ...Discrimination

13:46 - ...Gender

14:11 - Tensions Affecting Minority Groups

15:26 - ...have you been asked to act contrary to your religious beliefs at work?

17:32 - ...have you been discriminated against because of your sex?

19:33 - ...regional differences

20:48 - Other Inequalities Among Minorities

21:02 - ...overlap with minority religion and people of color

21:42 - ...Christians have a responsibility to create structure to be fair

22:26 - ...principled pluralism

22:54 - Christians being respectful of other faiths while living their own faith

23:11 - ...respect different perspectives

23:18 - ...listen to different perspectives

24:22 -...