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  • S1 Ep77: What's broken in health care, with Marschall Runge, M.D., Ph.D.
    2025/08/11
    Marschall Runge, M.D., Ph.D., dean of the University of Michigan Medical School, CEO of Michigan Medicine and author of The Great Healthcare Disruption, joins the show to dissect exactly what's broken in U.S. health care — and what we can do to fix it.

    Music Credits:
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    Relaxing Lounge by Classy Call me Man - stock.adobe.com
    A Textbook Example by Skip Peck - stock.adobe.com

    Editor's note: Episode timestamps and transcript produced using AI tools.
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    30 分
  • S1 Ep76: What AI can (and can't) do for prior authorizations, with Brad Boyd of BDO USA
    2025/08/04
    Brad Boyd, principal of management consulting at BDO USA, joins the show to talk about how artificial intelligence (AI) and other health technologies are helping physicians navigate the prior authorization process, reduce administrative burdens and improve patient care.

    Music Credits:
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    Relaxing Lounge by Classy Call me Man - stock.adobe.com
    A Textbook Example by Skip Peck - stock.adobe.com

    Editor's note: Episode timestamps and transcript produced using AI tools.

    Introduction to the Episode (00:00:21)
    Overview of the podcast, episode focus on prior authorizations, and introduction of guest Brad Boyd.

    Biggest Pain Points in Prior Authorization (00:01:36) Discussion of administrative burdens, labor shortages, increased denials, and financial pressures on providers.

    AI’s Immediate Impact on Prior Authorization (00:04:47) How automation and AI can reduce administrative workload and free up clinical staff.

    Rules-Based vs. Generative AI (00:06:26) Differences between rules-based automation and generative AI in revenue cycle management.

    Data Requirements for AI Solutions (00:09:26) Discussion on the need for organized, governed data for effective AI implementation.

    Provider vs. Payer AI Systems (00:10:54) Exploration of incentives, trust issues, and the divide between provider and payer AI tools.

    AI “Battles” and Denial Increases (00:13:23) Concerns about AI systems on both sides increasing denials and administrative gamesmanship.

    Integrating AI into EHR Workflow (00:16:14) Importance of embedding AI tools into existing clinical and administrative workflows.

    AI Access for Small and Rural Practices (00:19:46) Challenges and opportunities for smaller practices to adopt AI, including reliance on vendors and clinical alignment.

    Management Minute: Employee Red Flags (00:21:56) Three red flag behaviors that signal it’s time to let an employee go in a medical practice.

    Are We at a Tipping Point? (00:23:09) Discussion on regulatory attention, public uproar, and whether technology can finally solve prior auth issues.

    Ethics of AI in Prior Authorization (00:25:40) Ethical concerns, data protection, and responsible use of AI in healthcare.

    How to Start Streamlining Prior Auth with AI (00:28:01) Advice on developing a strategy, prioritizing use cases, and building sustainable AI programs.

    Final Thoughts and Emphasis on Strategy (00:32:38) Importance of a thoughtful, long-term strategy for AI adoption in healthcare revenue cycle management.

    Episode Wrap-Up (00:34:09) Closing remarks, subscription reminders, and production credits.
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    35 分
  • Special Report: 60 years of Medicare
    2025/07/30
    This is an Off the Chart Special Report.
    60 years ago today, on July 30, 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Medicare and Medicaid Act — also known as the Social Security Amendments of 1965 — into law at the Truman Library in Independence, Missouri.

    Years earlier, in 1945, it was President Harry S. Truman who first proposed a comprehensive national health insurance program to Congress. During the ceremony in 1965, President Johnson called Truman "the real daddy of Medicare," presenting the former President and the former first lady, Bess Truman, with the first and second Medicare cards.

    Today, 60 years later, more than 66 million Americans are dependent on Medicare.

    In this episode, Medical Economics Senior Editor Richard Payerchin is joined by Clifton Truman Daniel, President Truman's eldest grandson, and Mark Adams, the director of the Truman Library.

    They reflect on Medicare’s legacy, Truman’s push for universal care and what his ideas still mean for health policy today.

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    Introduction and Historical Context (00:00:00)
    Overview of Medicare’s 60th anniversary, President Truman’s early advocacy, and introduction of guests.

    Guest Introductions (00:01:17) Clifton Truman Daniel and Mark Adams introduce themselves and share their backgrounds.

    Medicare’s Historic Connection to Truman (00:03:47) Discussion of why LBJ signed Medicare at the Truman Library and the Truman-Johnson relationship.

    Personal Anecdotes: Truman and Johnson Families (00:07:03) Stories about the friendship between the Truman and Johnson families, including the portrait incident.

    Truman’s Vision for Health Care (00:08:51) Truman’s 1945 message to Congress and why health care was central to his Fair Deal agenda.

    Physician Leadership and Opposition (00:11:47) Truman’s views on physician leadership, AMA opposition, and his preference for decentralized health care.

    Supporters and Opponents of Truman’s Health Initiatives (00:13:12) Who supported and opposed Truman’s health care proposals, including labor unions and conservative groups.

    Historical Context: 1945–1965 (00:15:51)
    Social and political developments that led to Medicare and Medicaid, including the Great Society.

    Truman’s Post-Presidency Involvement (00:17:10)
    Truman’s continued interest in national affairs and his relationships with later presidents.

    Recurring Health Care Challenges (00:19:50) Discussion of persistent health care issues from Truman’s era to today and his likely reaction.

    Decentralization in Health Care (00:23:28) Truman’s emphasis on state and local involvement in health care delivery.

    Impact on Life Expectancy (00:25:51) Improvements in American life expectancy since Medicare’s passage and Truman’s likely response.

    Personal Health and Family Legacy (00:27:24) Truman family health stories and the importance of health in their lives.

    Closing Remarks and Podcast Outro (00:30:42) Thanking guests, encouraging subscriptions, and podcast credits.
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    32 分
  • S1 Ep75: Physician struggles, with AMA President Bobby Mukkamala, M.D. (Part 2)
    2025/07/28
    Bobby Mukkamala, M.D., president of the American Medical Association (AMA) joins the show to talk about what the AMA is doing for pressing issues like prior authorizations, private practice, artificial intelligence and scope of practice.

    This is part two of our conversation with Mukkamala. If you haven't already, be sure to check out part one, "From patient to president, with AMA President Bobby Mukkamala, M.D.," to hear about his personal health journey, in addition to the AMA’s stance on primary care, health policy and physician reimbursement.

    The episode is out now, available below, or wherever you listen to your podcasts:

    Medical Economics: https://www.medicaleconomics.com/view/ep-74-from-patient-to-president-with-ama-president-bobby-mukkamala-m-d-part-1-
    Physicians Practice: https://www.physicianspractice.com/view/ep-74-from-patient-to-president-with-ama-president-bobby-mukkamala-m-d-part-1-
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-patient-to-president-with-ama-president-bobby/id1522950336?i=1000718285185
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6iM1U2tMLUAygnAKe1zlzY

    Music Credits:
    Cool Funky Chill Hip Hop by Musinova - stock.adobe.com
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    Editor's note: Episode timestamps and transcript produced using AI tools.

    Introduction and Episode Context (00:00:00)
    Overview of the episode, speakers and recap of part one; sets up topics for this episode.

    Prior Authorization Challenges and AMA Reform Efforts (00:01:15) Discussion of the frustrations with prior authorization, real-world examples and AMA's advocacy for reform.

    Decline of Private Practice and Physician Autonomy (00:06:38) Explores the shift from private practice to employment, threats to autonomy and AMA's support for independent physicians.

    Promoting Private Practice to Medical Students (00:08:39) Encouraging medical students to consider private practice and the importance of independence in medicine.

    Clinical Resource Plug: Patient Care Online (00:10:02) Brief mention of Patient Care Online as a resource for primary care physicians.

    Artificial Intelligence in Medicine: Promise and Pitfalls (00:10:14) Examines AI's potential in healthcare, concerns about implementation and AMA's approach to augmented intelligence.

    P2 Management Minute: Reducing Malpractice Risk (00:13:44) Tips for physicians on reducing malpractice risk through communication, documentation and patient relationships.

    Scope of Practice and Team-Based Care (00:14:48) Concerns about non-physician providers, importance of physician-led teams and maintaining care quality.

    Closing Thoughts and Call for Unity (00:18:49) Dr. Mukkamala's message to physicians about working together to improve health care and the AMA's role.

    Outro and Subscription Information (00:20:03) Wrap-up, how to find part one and information on subscribing to the podcast and newsletters.
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    21 分
  • S1 Ep74: From patient to president, with AMA President Bobby Mukkamala, M.D. (Part 1)
    2025/07/21
    Bobby Mukkamala, M.D., president of the American Medical Association (AMA) joins the show to discuss the AMA's mission in the year ahead, health care policy, challenges facing primary care and his personal health journey.

    This is part one of a two-part interview with Mukkamala. Don't miss part two — where he talks about reimbursement struggles, prior authorization frustrations, the potential of artificial intelligence (AI) in medicine and physician autonomy — available next Monday, July 28, right here and wherever you get your podcasts.

    Music Credits:
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    Editor's note: Episode timestamps and transcript produced using AI tools.

    Introduction and Overview (00:00:00)
    Dr. Mukkamala discusses advocacy for patients and physicians, setting the tone for the episode.

    Podcast Introduction and Guest Background (00:00:22) Host Austin Littrell introduces the episode, guests and main topics to be discussed.

    Dr. Mukkamala Personal and Professional Background (00:01:27) Dr. Mukkamala shares his medical background, family, and practice history in Flint, Michigan.

    AMA’s Mission and Dr. Mukkamala's Goals (00:02:14) Discussion of the AMA’s mission, current challenges in medicine and Dr. Mukkamala's presidential goals.

    Dr. Mukkamala's Experience as a Patient (00:03:42) He recounts his brain tumor diagnosis and how being a patient changed his perspective on health care.

    Challenges in Primary Care (00:06:01) Exploration of the burdens facing primary care physicians, including regulations, burnout and workforce shortages.

    Primary Care and Systemic Barriers (00:06:48) Further discussion on prior authorizations, insurance hurdles, and the impact on patient care and physician burnout.

    Healthcare Becoming Transactional (00:09:21) Concerns about the loss of physician-patient relationships and the impact of insurance compensation models.

    Policy, Politics and the AMA’s Role (00:11:19) Discussion of major policy changes in 2025, federal agency restructuring and the AMA’s advocacy approach.

    Impact of Policy on Medical Research and Practice (00:13:13) How changes in funding and policy affect medical research, innovation and Dr. Mukkamala's personal treatment.

    Medicare Reimbursement Challenges (00:16:21) Examination of stagnant Medicare reimbursement, its ripple effects and the AMA’s advocacy for payment reform.

    Health Equity and Outcomes (00:20:31) Addressing health equity gaps, local disparities in Flint and the AMA’s efforts to raise awareness and drive change.

    Episode Conclusion and Next Steps (00:23:52) Host wraps up, previews part two and provides subscription information for listeners.
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    25 分
  • S1 Ep73: Why physicians are suing RFK Jr., with attorney Richard H. Hughes IV, J.D., M.P.H.
    2025/07/14
    Richard H. Hughes IV, J.D., M.P.H., joins the show to talk about the recent lawsuit filed against Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., by major medical groups — including the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Physicians, the Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine and a "Jane Doe" pregnant physician — regarding the removal of the COVID-19 vaccination for pregnant women and healthy children from the immunization schedules of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

    Hughes is a health care attorney representing the plaintiffs in the lawsuit. He also serves as voting director for the nonprofit vaccine advocacy organization, Vaccinate Your Family.

    For more information on the lawsuit, check out this Medical Economics article:
    'Existential threat to vaccination' — Physicians, public health experts sue HHS over RFK Jr's COVID-19 vaccine directive

    Music Credits:
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    Editor's note: Episode timestamps and transcript produced using AI tools.

    Introduction to the Lawsuit (00:00:00)
    Overview of the lawsuit challenging HHS Secretary’s actions undermining vaccine access and confidence.

    Podcast and Guest Introduction (00:00:24) Host introduces the podcast, episode topic, and guest Richard H. Hughes.

    Background of the Lawsuit and Plaintiffs (00:01:31) Details on the lawsuit’s plaintiffs and the specific HHS action being challenged.

    Significance of Vaccine Recommendations (00:03:32) Discussion on the importance of official vaccine recommendations in clinical practice and policy.

    Impact on Public Health and Clinical Practice (00:05:24) How the directive affects providers, patients, and vaccine access, especially for pregnant women and children.

    Scientific Basis of the Directive (00:06:27) Questioning whether the HHS directive was based on established scientific evidence and proper procedures.

    ACIP Deliberations and Future Vaccine Targets (00:07:55) Discussion of ACIP’s recent actions and potential future changes to the immunization schedule.

    Role of Medical Organizations and Need for Legal Action (00:09:30) Why legal action is necessary despite strong medical society recommendations.

    Continuation of Medical Recommendations (00:11:00) Assurance that medical organizations will continue to make vaccine recommendations.

    Legal Process and Next Steps (00:11:31) Explanation of the legal process, upcoming hearings, and expected timeline for a court decision.

    Potential Impact on Upcoming Flu Season (00:12:15) Whether court action can occur in time to affect the upcoming respiratory and flu season.

    Message to Primary Care Physicians (00:12:54) Encouragement for physicians to rely on professional guidelines and address vaccine misinformation.

    Closing Remarks and Farewell (00:13:35) Conclusion of the interview and expressions of appreciation.

    Podcast Outro and Subscription Information (00:14:10) Host wraps up the episode, provides subscription and newsletter information.
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    15 分
  • S1 Ep72: Medicare reform with Susan Dentzer of America's Physician Groups
    2025/07/07
    Susan Dentzer, president and CEO of America's Physician Groups, joins the show to talk Medicare reform and the specific proposals included in America's Physician Group's latest report, "Medicare Done Right."

    Download the full report: https://www.apg.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Medicare-Done-Right-Final-4.1.25.pdf

    Music Credits:
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    Introduction and Episode Overview (00:00:00)
    Austin introduces the episode, guest Susan Dentzer, and the focus on Medicare reform and accountability.

    Biggest Issue with Medicare and Key Fix (00:01:18) Susan discusses the main problem with Medicare and the report’s top recommendation: increasing accountability in both Medicare arms.

    Accountable Relationships in Practice (00:02:25) Explains what it means for every beneficiary to have an accountable relationship with a healthcare professional, especially for small practices.

    Importance of Care Coordination and Outcomes (00:03:47) Highlights the value of primary care teams, care coordination, and minimizing unnecessary hospital use for better outcomes.

    Problems with MIPS and MACRA (00:04:16) Critique of the current MIPS/MACRA system, why it hasn’t worked, and the need for system-level reforms.

    Restoring and Expanding Incentives (00:06:24) Calls for restoring and expanding advanced alternative payment model bonuses to better reward clinicians in accountable models.

    Challenges for Small and Independent Practices (00:07:28) Addresses the risks and complexities of two-sided ACOs for small practices and suggests partnership solutions.

    How At-Risk MA Arrangements Save Money (00:10:04) Explains how Medicare Advantage at-risk models achieve better outcomes and could save $22 billion if replicated in traditional Medicare.

    Improving Medicare Advantage: Prior Authorization and Star Ratings (00:14:00) Discusses the popularity of MA, issues with prior authorization and star ratings, and visions for improvement.

    Dental, Vision, and Hearing Coverage in Accountable Models (00:17:10) Proposal to offer extra benefits to traditional Medicare patients who join accountable care models and how it could work.

    Top Medicare Policy Change for 2025 (00:20:51) Susan’s pick for the most impactful policy change: updating the Medicare physician fee schedule to reflect practice cost inflation.

    Clarifying Medicare Advantage Misconceptions (00:23:31) Emphasizes the diversity within MA, the benefits of delegated risk models, and the importance of understanding risk adjustment.

    Conclusion and Report Access (00:26:37) Wrap-up, thanks to Susan, and information on where to find the full report and subscribe to the podcast.
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    28 分
  • S1 Ep71: Agentic AI with Isaac Park of Keebler Health
    2025/06/30
    Isaac Park, CEO of Keebler Health, joins the show to talk agentic AI and how it can be used in health care.

    Music Credits:
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    Editor's note: Episode timestamps and transcript produced using AI tools.

    Introduction and Pace of AI Change (00:00:00)
    Discussion on the unprecedented speed and velocity of technological change, especially with AI.

    Podcast Introduction and Guest Overview (00:00:26) Host introduces the podcast, the episode’s topic, and the guest, Isaac Park.

    Defining Agent AI vs. Large Language Models (00:01:09) Explains what agent AI is, how it differs from large language models, and its core capabilities.

    Agent AI Use Cases and Healthcare Applications (00:02:43) Describes agent AI’s potential to mimic human workflows and its analogy to customer service bots.

    Appropriate Use Cases in Healthcare (00:04:31) Agent AI’s current use in low-clinical, high-administrative tasks like scheduling and EHR management.

    Limitations and Human-in-the-Loop Necessity (00:06:09) Discusses why agent AI shouldn’t be used alone in high-stakes clinical decisions; need for human oversight.

    Agent AI as a Tool for Physicians (00:07:16) Frames agent AI as a tool to empower clinicians, not replace them, and parallels with other tech advances.

    Impact on Clinician Performance (00:08:23) How AI tools can amplify both good and bad performance, based on user expertise.

    Building and Maintaining Trust in AI (00:09:31) Addresses the importance of trust, transparency, and evidence in AI adoption among clinicians.

    AI in Staffing and Documentation (00:11:32) Explores AI’s role in automating scheduling and its success in clinical documentation (ambient scribing).

    Future Steps in Documentation and Efficiency (00:13:49) Considers whether agent AI can further automate tasks like billing and multi-step processes.

    Complexity and Limitations of AI in Healthcare (00:14:26) Explains healthcare’s complexity, AI’s struggles with structured tasks, and why full automation is risky.

    Point Solutions and Future AI Trends (00:18:27) Predicts proliferation of small, effective AI tools in healthcare, but questions full autonomy.

    Prospects for Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) (00:20:13) Discusses fluctuating industry opinions on AGI and the rapid pace of AI development.

    Closing Remarks and Outro (00:21:52) Wrap-up of the conversation, thanks to the guest, and podcast subscription information.
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    23 分