In this straight-talking follow-up episode of the Off The Tools Podcast, Wayne Bettess is joined once again by Andrew Jones — back in the hot seat after their first chat ran well over two hours. This time, it’s not about what Andy’s done, but what’s changed inside him.

They get brutally honest about personal development, pricing mindset, the trap of being "busy", and the real cost of surrounding yourself with the wrong people.

From tackling limiting beliefs, changing the way you price jobs, understanding your true value, and building better habits, this episode is stacked with practical, no-bullshit insights you can actually use.

If you're stuck chasing your tail, undervaluing yourself, or just need a kick up the arse to start taking ownership of your future — this is your wake-up call.

📍Recorded live from the Off The Tools HQ studio.

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Welcome back to the Off the Tools Podcast – where real trades talk real business. In this episode, I’m joined by a man who’s gone from burnout and 14-hour days to building a thriving, systemised heating business.

Andy Jones, founder of Twin Sun Heating, finally joins me after two years of back and forth (life gets in the way, doesn’t it?). We unpack his full journey – from flipping a coin to choose plumbing over electrics, to building a six-figure business driven by service plans, not just callouts.

We talk about the awkward early days, pricing with purpose, limiting beliefs, systems, software, reviews, burnout, and building a business on purpose – not just creating yourself another hard job.

If you're stuck in the weeds of the day-to-day, this episode will give you hope, clarity, and a few well-earned laughs.

💬 Language warning: we're just real people having a real chat – so if you’re offended by the odd swear word, you might wanna skip. Or maybe you need this more than anyone. 😄