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  • S1E15 | Key questions Christians answer differently with Steve Lennox
    2026/04/16

    Hello listeners! In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury interviews Dr. Steve Lennox to explore key questions about salvation, including who can be saved, how we can know we are saved, and how fully we can be saved. They discuss theological perspectives, the role of grace, and practical implications for faith and ministry. Enjoy this impactful conversation!




    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided by: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

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    39 分
  • S1E14 | What Does Church History Have to Say to TikTok Christianity with Miranda Cruz
    2026/04/09

    Hello and welcome to another episode of Not That Kind of Christian. In this episode, David Drury interviews church history professor Miranda Cruz about the impact of social media on faith, the resurgence of old heresies like Gnosticism, and how church history offers hope and guidance for navigating modern faith challenges. We hope you enjoy this conversation!


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided by: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.




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    42 分
  • S1E13 | One Man's Story of Transformation
    2026/04/02

    Hello and welcome to the Not That Kind of Christian Podcast! This episode features a secret guest, nicknamed "Harold", who shares his transformative journey from a troubled youth involved in substance abuse to a dedicated missionary. Harold recounts his transient childhood in a military family, his struggles with faith during his teenage years, and his eventual awakening to spirituality in college. He discusses his calling to missions, the challenges of living in a Muslim country, and the impact of his experiences on his family. We hope you enjoy listening in on this guest's journey.


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided by: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.





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  • S1E12 | What Roles Have Women Had in the Church? With Elizabeth Glass Turner
    2026/03/26

    In this episode of the Not That Kind of Christian podcast, David Drury and Elizabeth Glass Turner explore the often overlooked history of women in the church. They discuss compelling stories of women leaders, the historical evidence that challenges the notion that women's leadership is a recent phenomenon, and the cultural shifts that have influenced perceptions of women's roles in ministry. We hope that you are encouraged to embrace a broader perspective on women's leadership in faith communities!


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided By: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.


    Key Notes:


    Many compelling stories of women leaders have been forgotten.

    Historical evidence shows that women have been preaching for centuries.

    Cultural and political factors have influenced women's roles in ministry.

    Understanding local church history can reveal hidden stories of women leaders.

    Junia is recognized as an apostle in the New Testament.

    The Holy Spirit has consistently worked through both women and men.

    Engaging with scripture and history can expand our understanding of women's roles.





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    52 分
  • S1E11 | Simple Spiritual Practices with Holly Norton and Dave Horne
    2026/03/19

    In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury engages with guests Holly Norton and Dave Horn to explore the significance of spiritual practices in fostering a deeper connection with God. They discuss personal journeys into spiritual formation, the challenges of silence and solitude, and the importance of resisting productivity in favor of a more contemplative approach to faith. The conversation delves into practical tools like Lectio Divina and Centering Prayer, emphasizing the need for lament in spiritual life and offering actionable steps for reconnecting with God amidst the noise of daily life.


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided By: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.


    Key Notes:


    Spiritual practices should be seen as gifts, not burdens.

    Silence and solitude can be intimidating but are essential for spiritual growth.

    Productivity can hinder our connection with God.

    Noticing our feelings and surroundings enhances our prayer life.

    Lectio Divina encourages relational intimacy with Scripture.

    Centering Prayer allows us to rest in God's presence without words.

    Lament is a vital practice for expressing our grief and struggles to God.

    A busy life can lead to burnout and disconnection from God.

    Engaging with nature can help us reconnect with God.

    Having a spiritual friend or director can provide support in our faith journey.



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    48 分
  • S1E10 | Karina Drury on Going Viral: an Insider's Story
    2026/03/12

    In this episode of the Not That Kind of Christian podcast, David Drury interviews his daughter, Karina Drury, who shares her journey as a young influencer navigating the complexities of social media, mental health, and authenticity. Karina discusses her viral moment at 16, her experiences with chronic illness, and how she balances her online presence with her faith. We hope you enjoy!


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided By: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.


    Key Notes:


    Social media can create a false sense of reality and pressure.

    It's essential to balance personal sharing with privacy.

    Algorithms can box influencers into specific niches.

    Mental health is impacted by social media consumption.

    Faith can be shared authentically without being overbearing.

    Creating hobbies outside of social media is crucial.



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    34 分
  • S1E9 | DRAFT: Cringe Christian Phrases to Retire with Santes Beatty and Amy Boyle
    2026/03/05

    In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury, along with guests Santis Beatty and Amy Boyle, engages in a light-hearted yet profound discussion about commonly used Christian phrases that have become clichés. They explore the implications of these phrases, their performative nature, and the need for more authentic communication in faith contexts. Through a draft-style format, they each select phrases they believe should be retired, providing insights into why these phrases can be problematic and suggesting more meaningful alternatives. Enjoy this engaging episode, and share your own phrases in the comments that you would choose to retire!


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided By: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.


    Key Notes:


    Cliché phrases can dilute the authenticity of faith conversations.

    Performative language often overshadows genuine support.

    It's important to take responsibility in our expressions of care.

    Many common phrases can be harmful or misleading.

    Encouragement should be rooted in relationship, not just words.

    Being present in someone's pain is more valuable

    Authentic communication fosters deeper connections in faith communities.


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    32 分
  • S1E8 | The Christian life and Immigrants with Zach Szmara and Carlos Téllez
    2026/02/26

    Greetings Listeners! In this episode of the Not That Kind of Christian podcast, David engages in a deep conversation about immigration, faith, and the experiences of immigrants in the United States. Joined by guests Carlos Deyes and Zach Szmara, the discussion explores the biblical perspective on immigration, the complexities of the immigration system, and the role of the church in providing support and advocacy for immigrants. We hope you enjoy this impactful conversation!


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided By: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.


    Key Notes:


    Immigration is a polarizing issue in American life.

    Every immigrant's story is unique and complex.

    Chronic uncertainty is a common experience for many immigrants.

    The church can play a vital role in supporting immigrants.

    Understanding the immigration system is crucial for compassion.

    People first, politics later is a guiding principle.

    Immigrants can be agents of mission within the church.

    The immigration system is often a maze with moving walls.

    Engaging with immigrant stories can foster empathy and understanding.





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    56 分