Greetings Listeners! In this episode of the Not That Kind of Christian podcast, David engages in a deep conversation about immigration, faith, and the experiences of immigrants in the United States. Joined by guests Carlos Deyes and Zach Szmara, the discussion explores the biblical perspective on immigration, the complexities of the immigration system, and the role of the church in providing support and advocacy for immigrants. We hope you enjoy this impactful conversation!

Hosted By: David Drury

Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern

Edited By: Seth Strand

Network Provided By: Lantern

Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

Key Notes:

Immigration is a polarizing issue in American life.

Every immigrant's story is unique and complex.

Chronic uncertainty is a common experience for many immigrants.

The church can play a vital role in supporting immigrants.

Understanding the immigration system is crucial for compassion.

People first, politics later is a guiding principle.

Immigrants can be agents of mission within the church.

The immigration system is often a maze with moving walls.

Engaging with immigrant stories can foster empathy and understanding.