Keywords

cybersecurity, product management, career development, market strategy, customer insights, hacking, music, team building, startup life, risk management

Summary

In this episode of No Password Required, host Jack Clabby and co-host Kayleigh Melton engage in a lively conversation with John Shipp, a product strategist at Rapid7. They explore John's unique journey from a metalhead to a cybersecurity expert, discussing the importance of passion in career development, the intricacies of product management, and the significance of customer insights in shaping cybersecurity solutions. John shares his early experiences in hacking, the influence of music on his life, and the value of building strong teams and company culture. The episode concludes with a fun segment called the Lifestyle Polygraph, where John answers quirky questions about his ideal cyber team and his dream day with Ric Flair.

Takeaways

Being a metalhead prepares you for the boardroom.

You can follow your passion and thrive in your career.

Product management involves understanding customer needs and market dynamics.

Curiosity is a key driver in the tech field.

Great teams are built on strong leadership and culture.

Startup life requires a willingness to take risks.

Networking and building relationships are crucial in cybersecurity.

Understanding your risk appetite is important when considering career moves.

Music can be a significant influence on personal and professional life.

Mentorship and sharing knowledge are vital for growth in the industry.

Titles

From Metal to Management: A Cybersecurity Journey

Passion and Profession: Finding Your Path in Cybersecurity

Sound bites

"You can follow your passion and thrive."

"I learned security at scale."

"Curiosity drives my passion for tech."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity and Personal Journeys

02:49 The Role of Passion in Career Development

05:21 Navigating Product Management and Market Strategy

08:23 The Evolution of Cybersecurity Skills

11:37 The Importance of Customer Insights in Product Development

14:35 Early Experiences in Hacking and Cybersecurity

17:24 The Influence of Music on Personal and Professional Life

20:19 Building Teams and Company Culture

23:10 Startup Life and Risk Management

26:08 Lifestyle Polygraph: Fun Questions and Insights

29:13 Final Thoughts and Connections

Keywords

cybersecurity, military transition, Tampa cybersecurity, mentorship, cyber law, incident response, private sector, cybersecurity misconceptions, legal perspectives, cybersecurity growth

Summary

In this episode of No Password Required, hosts Jack Clabby and Kayley Melton sit down with Kurt Sanger — former Deputy General Counsel at U.S. Cyber Command — to talk about the evolving world of cyber law, the wild ride from government service to private sector strategy, and what keeps him grounded in a field that’s constantly shifting. Kurt dives into the fast-growing cybersecurity scene in Tampa, the power of mentorship, and why people still get cyber law so wrong. Plus: insights on responding to incidents under pressure and what role the government should (and shouldn’t) play in the digital fight.

Takeaways

Kurt emphasizes that newcomers to cybersecurity are not as far behind as they think.

The transition from military to private sector can be challenging but rewarding.

Tampa is becoming a significant hub for cybersecurity talent and companies.

Understanding cybersecurity misconceptions is crucial for decision-makers.

Mentorship plays a vital role in navigating career challenges in cybersecurity.

Military and civilian cyber law have distinct differences in enforcement and flexibility.

The stakes in private sector cybersecurity can be incredibly high for clients.

Kurt's experience highlights the need for collaboration between government and private sectors.

Cybersecurity is an ever-evolving field that requires continuous learning.

Kurt finds excitement in helping clients during their most challenging times.

Sound bites

"You're only six months behind."

"We're all in the same boat."

"The government needs to step back."

Chapters

00:00 NPR S6E7 Kurt Sanger

52:53 NPR S6E7 Kurt Sanger

01:45:47 Introduction to Cybersecurity Conversations

01:48:22 Transitioning from Military to Private Sector Cybersecurity

01:51:11 The Growth of Tampa as a Cybersecurity Hub

01:54:05 Understanding Cybersecurity Misconceptions

01:57:15 The Role of Mentorship in Cybersecurity Careers

02:00:24 Military vs. Civilian Cybersecurity Law

02:03:07 The Excitement of Cyber Command vs. Private Sector

02:13:52 High Stakes in Cybersecurity for Small Organizations

02:15:44 The Role of Legal Experts in Cybersecurity

02:17:21 Translating Technical Jargon for Clients

02:18:57 Challenges of Explaining Cyber Operations to Commanders

02:22:43 Lifestyle Polygraph: Fun Questions and Insights

02:23:30 The 10,000 Hour Rule in Cybersecurity

02:29:34 Creative Freedom with LEGO Bricks

02:31:27 Tampa's Culinary Delights and Local Favorites

keywords

cybersecurity, culinary arts, penetration testing, career transition, high-pressure situations, horror films, IT, social engineering, cooking, cybersecurity horror, dark web, pen testing, B-Sides community, cybersecurity, lifestyle polygraph, music, childhood memories, culinary skills, competition

takeaways

Kathy Collins transitioned from IT to culinary arts and back to cybersecurity.

Her journey highlights the transferable skills between cooking and cybersecurity.

Physical penetration testing involves unpredictable human elements.

High-pressure situations in cooking can prepare one for cybersecurity challenges.

Unexpected challenges can arise in both culinary events and cybersecurity tests.

The importance of communication in cybersecurity engagements is crucial.

Kathy's experience in cooking for large groups parallels the complexities of cybersecurity.

The need for proper notification in penetration testing to avoid misunderstandings.

Kathy's culinary background influences her approach to problem-solving in cybersecurity.

There is a lack of big-budget horror films focused on cybersecurity. Going with the correct skeptical mindset is crucial.

Using tools like Flare helps in dark web monitoring.

B-Sides events are affordable and beneficial for newcomers.

Engaging with the community fosters excitement and learning.

Hannibal Lecter would be an interesting pen test partner.

The Jaws soundtrack sets a perfect mood for stealth.

Bonding over music can strengthen family relationships.

Childhood toys can reveal early hacker tendencies.

Culinary skills can be approached with a hacker mindset.

Competition in cooking shows often emphasizes drama over skill.

summary

In this episode of the No Password Required podcast, host Jack Clabby and co-host Kaylee Melton welcome Kathy Collins, a security consultant at Secure Ideas. Kathy shares her unique journey from working in IT to pursuing a culinary career, and then back to cybersecurity. The conversation explores the transferable skills between cooking and cybersecurity, the unpredictability of physical penetration testing, and the high-pressure situations faced in both fields. Kathy also recounts memorable experiences from her culinary career and discusses the lack of horror films centered around cybersecurity. In this engaging conversation, the speakers delve into various aspects of cybersecurity, including the use of the dark web in penetration testing, the importance of community events like B-Sides, and the fun of the Lifestyle Polygraph segment. They also share personal anecdotes about music, childhood memories, and culinary skills, creating a rich tapestry of insights and experiences in the cybersecurity field.

titles

From Chef to Cybersecurity: A Unique Journey

The Culinary Path to Cybersecurity

High Stakes: Cooking and Cybersecurity Under Pressure

Penetration Testing: The Culinary Connection

Sound Bites

"I had to do some soul searching."

"I was like, what if I have to do..."

"It's disturbingly easy."

"There are so many opportunities there."

"Going with the correct skeptical mindset."

"We have a tool that we use called Flare."

"They should attend them, first of all."

"I had an Easy Bake Oven and took it apart."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity and Culinary Journeys

02:46 From IT to Culinary Arts: A Unique Transition

06:02 The Shift Back to Cybersecurity

09:00 Experiences in Physical Penetration Testing

11:48 High-Pressure Situations: Cooking vs. Cybersecurity

15:02 Unexpected Challenges in Culinary Events

17:54 The Intersection of Horror and Cybersecurity

23:32 Exploring the Dark Web in Pen Testing

25:34 Engaging with the B-Sides Community

27:09 The Lifestyle Polygraph: Fun and Games

31:09 Bonding Over Music and Childhood Memories

34:17 Culinary Skills and Competition Insights