Two women wade into the inky darkness of the Pacific Ocean, stripped bare under a moonless sky. It's a ritual they've established—where anxiety transforms into calm, where something is left behind in the sea, and something new is taken back to shore. This is where our conversation with Pam Rivers begins.

Pam, a seasoned therapist and transformation guide with over 35 years of experience, returns to share profound insights about our connection to water, ancestral healing, and the energetic exchange she calls "osmosis." The ocean ritual they describe isn't just about cold water therapy or thrill-seeking—it's about honoring something ancient within us, a recognition of our primordial connection to water that transcends rational understanding.

As the conversation deepens, Pam guides us through her understanding of "the collective"—that vast ocean of ancestral wisdom and experience we can access, where we follow particular "streams" throughout our existence. She explains how we carry our family's trauma in our DNA, but also their gifts, their resilience, and their light. With remarkable clarity, she details her recent spiritual pilgrimage to Ireland, where she discovered unexpected connections to her heritage that left her "destabilized" for weeks afterward. Her stories of gates clanging shut behind her at an Irish church, encounters with devout Catholics, and revelations about historical atrocities weave together a profound narrative about how we reckon with the past.

Perhaps most refreshing is Pam's rejection of spiritual bypassing—the idea that being "evolved" means forgiving everything. "Sometimes there's a cost to being a horrible human," she states, challenging listeners to consider that accountability has a place in spiritual growth. She describes how certain soul contracts—energetic agreements we make with others across lifetimes—can be recognized and completed, while others can be consciously severed.

For anyone seeking to understand their own ancestral connections, soul contracts, or relationship with spiritual practices, this conversation offers both practical insights and mystical possibilities. Listen now to discover how slowing down, tuning in, and honoring ancient wisdom might transform your understanding of yourself and your place in the greater tapestry of existence.

https://pamriverstransformation.substack.com/

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