In this episode, Hailey welcomes Pastor Joel Sommer for an enriching conversation about spiritual agency and ancestral responsibility. They explore the delicate balance of nurturing children's spiritual curiosity while allowing them to forge their own paths, and discuss the surprisingly relevant question: "Is the Holy Spirit anxious?"

Joel brings his unique perspective as a Mestizo pastor, drawing from his Filipina and Jewish-German American heritage to explore what it means to be a worthy ancestor for future generations. This episode offers insights for parents and anyone interested in creating a legacy of authentic spirituality.

Joel Sommer is the Pastor of Vision and Formation at Access Church in Portland, OR. His work bridges diverse spiritual traditions, informed by his multicultural background and love for indie hip-hop, spoken word poetry, and silent retreats. Together with his wife Sabrina, an anti-racist educator, they parent three sons while modeling intentional spiritual formation.

RESOURCES mentioned:

• Illustrated Kid's Ministry
• 8 Kids Books to Teach Children about an Expansive, Inclusive God

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